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Post by Indigo on Jul 21, 2014 22:33:50 GMT
Yep, just finished chapter 11. I had Chrom with Sumia at S, and watched their S support, but then loaded my save again because marrying out of the blue at that point was weird. The whole pairing thing and dialogue after chapter 11 felt much more natural (and better). What happens if he's already married at that point?
Chrom and Kirius are at level 20. So do I just use my Master Seals now?
As for marriage with my character... I don't have much plans for that yet. Tharja's the only romantically inclined support I've seen yet... Honestly I'm not worrying much about skills right now, I'm just going with the flow (much like I paired Chrom and Sumia because it made the most sense).
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Post by Stove on Jul 21, 2014 22:49:40 GMT
Yep, just finished chapter 11. I had Chrom with Sumia at S, and watched their S support, but then loaded my save again because marrying out of the blue at that point was weird. The whole pairing thing and dialogue after chapter 11 felt much more natural (and better). What happens if he's already married at that point? Chrom and Kirius are at level 20. So do I just use my Master Seals now? As for marriage with my character... I don't have much plans for that yet. Tharja's the only romantically inclined support I've seen yet... Honestly I'm not worrying much about skills right now, I'm just going with the flow (much like I paired Chrom and Sumia because it made the most sense). If you don't have any S Supports after chapter 11, Chrom will marry whoever he has the most support with. (This is the only way to get him to marry Olivia since she doesn't have enough time to get an S support otherwise.) If he has no support with any of his wives, it goes down the line of ones that aren't dead/not married. (The order is Sumia, Maribelle, Sully, Olivia, Female Avatar) If all five of his possible wives are dead/married, he marries a random village maiden. As for Chrom and Kirius...it depends on what you want. You want to use a seal, I'll tell you that much. If you don't like how Kirius is right now, you can use a second seal and turn him into any non-special (Manakete, Taguel, Dancer, Villager and DLC classes), non-gender specific (The pegasus knight line/troubador line(not counting cleric in that since priest=cleric exactly.)) class. So you can make him a mage. Or a mercernary. Or whatever you want pretty much. If you use a master seal he'll become a Grandmaster, which is a good class in it's own right. Basically, if you like Kirius the way he is, advance him to a Grandmaster. If not, change him to a different class. As for Chrom, he doesn't have all those options (none of the other characters do, except for Morgan(you'll meet her later.)) If I recall, he gets to be either a Cavalier or an Archer if you use a second seal, or Great Lord if you use a master seal. Great Lord is a great class with great stats and skills (and you want to make sure Chrom can use Falchion so you probably wouldn't want to switch to archer anyway.) so I recommend using a master seal on him. |
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Post by Indigo on Jul 21, 2014 23:18:34 GMT
That first part... Yeah, that's what you said a few hours ago. I was just wondering what happens if Chrom is married at that point.
And for the seals, I just wasn't sure if it was a good idea/possible to use a Second Seal to build up stats, then eventually change back and use the Master Seal. I originally wanted to try going Dark Flier for the main character, but that's off limits... Guess I'll just upgrade both of them, and maybe I'll use a Second Seal on Frederick since he has tons of options.
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Post by Stove on Jul 21, 2014 23:27:00 GMT
That first part... Yeah, that's what you said a few hours ago. I was just wondering what happens if Chrom is married at that point. And for the seals, I just wasn't sure if it was a good idea/possible to use a Second Seal to build up stats, then eventually change back and use the Master Seal. I originally wanted to try going Dark Flier for the main character, but that's off limits... Guess I'll just upgrade both of them, and maybe I'll use a Second Seal on Frederick since he has tons of options. It is. You use a second seal at level 20 and you can become level 1 of the same class. However, there are stat caps in this game, and the base classes have much lower stat caps than the advanced classes. You want to change classes/advance for more skills anyway. They're too important to ignore. And as for that first thing...he's married. What else is there to get? I don't think I understand your question; it's pretty simple. He's just married. |
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Post by Indigo on Jul 21, 2014 23:45:15 GMT
Marriage was a pretty big part of all the cutscenes after Chapter 11, so I'm just curious how everything plays out if Chrom's already married then.
So, I should use my Master Seals first, and then start another chain with Second Seals?
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Post by Stove on Jul 21, 2014 23:51:45 GMT
Marriage was a pretty big part of all the cutscenes after Chapter 11, so I'm just curious how everything plays out if Chrom's already married then. So, I should use my Master Seals first, and then start another chain with Second Seals? There's no point to use a master seal if you don't like the advanced classes, but something to keep in mind with them...if you use a second seal when you're above level 10 as an advanced class, you can change class to any advanced class your character has as well. (Example: A level 10 Great Knight Chrom can become a Great Lord.) |
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Post by Rikuseroth on Jul 22, 2014 0:10:05 GMT
Yea, like how I go mercenary at lvl 10 with my avatar using a second seal, then go to hero with a master seal, then to dread fighter with a dread scroll.
Oh, and somehow I have tons of Catharsis. And Titania Axes and Tyrfings.
I'm still working on getting my Ragnells and Amatsus
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Post by Stove on Jul 22, 2014 0:18:09 GMT
Yea, like how I go mercenary at lvl 10 with my avatar using a second seal, then go to hero with a master seal, then to dread fighter with a dread scroll. Oh, and somehow I have tons of Catharsis. And Titania Axes and Tyrfings. I'm still working on getting my Ragnells and Amatsus Not even remotely like that, that doesn't go from one advanced class to another. Can't you go to Dread Fighter at any time? A more accurate example would be: Ricken gets to level 10, upgrades his class to Dark Knight. Ricken gets to level 10 as a Dark Knight and uses a second seal to switch to a Sage. (Dread Fighter is a DLC only class btw Clax) |
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Post by Rikuseroth on Jul 22, 2014 1:00:26 GMT
I was just saying about second sealing now before going to Great Lord or Whatever the next part of tactician is
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Post by Stove on Jul 22, 2014 1:08:59 GMT
I was just saying about second sealing now before going to Great Lord or Grandmaster. Still seems out of context, but less so. |
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Post by Stove on Jul 22, 2014 6:54:51 GMT
I have created the ultimate magic morgan. 56 magic (would be 66 if I had dlc) +5 from tomefaire +2 magic = 73. Pair him up with someone with good support/magic and then rally magic, you could probably reach 86 magic. Now...imagine using fortify or rescue. That's a 43 range rescue, or a heal for every ally within FOURTY THREE TILES of this guy. Such overkill; don't need it. My Ricken with 40-ish magic is plenty. (He was actually the only adult unit aside from Chrom, MU and their spouses that I used late game. He's also the only one who wasn't paired up.) Oh by the way, here's how it's made. Marry Ricken to Miriel for Laurent. Then marry Laurent to (+Mag) MU. A close alternative is marrying Male MU to Emmeryn, which has only one less point of magic. |
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Post by Indigo on Jul 22, 2014 22:19:59 GMT
So, how's Gaius? He can open chests and doors... But I've been having some trouble leveling him up, or being very practical. He's really weak on offense and defense. Mainly because he usually only has a 10-25% chance of dodging anything, can hardly even scratch some physical fighters, and takes nearly full damage from anything...
Is he worth leveling though? Anna seems very powerful, mobile, and has fair defense and impressive dodge rates. Will Gaius end up that good if I promote him to Trickster? Vaike has very low defenses... Which makes it difficult for him to be offensive if he's going to take as much damage as he will do.
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Post by Stove on Jul 22, 2014 22:28:21 GMT
So, how's Gaius? He can open chests and doors... But I've been having some trouble leveling him up, or being very practical. He's really weak on offense and defense. Mainly because he usually only has a 10-25% chance of dodging anything, can hardly even scratch some physical fighters, and takes nearly full damage from anything... Is he worth leveling though? Anna seems very powerful, mobile, and has fair defense and impressive dodge rates. Will Gaius end up that good if I promote him to Trickster? Vaike has very low defenses... Which makes it difficult for him to be offensive if he's going to take as much damage as he will do. Vaike is a damage sponge with high HP, massive strength, and meh defenses. Make him a warrior and he'll get the counter skill, which goes with how his character functions perfectly. Gaius v. Anna...Gaius is better. Anna has a whopping two supports (which effect stat boosts when paired up, crit/hit/avo bonuses in battle, dual strike and dual guard rates...AKA pretty important) one of which you don't get until late game and the other is Kirius. Unless you want to marry off Kirius to the goddess of finance wordplay, Gaius is better. He catches up pretty soon, all he needs is a Killing Edge early on and he can catch up with the others without too much trouble. At this point it's probably too late for him though, and having someone with locktouch is a very helpful thing. Gaius is not a good trickster by the way. Gaius is a good Assassin. (Though Kellam's better he takes a lot more effort and grinding) Long story short: Gaius is good if you can get him to be viable to the team quickly. Otherwise he's trash. However, Gaius does have a niche of his own. What chapter are you on now? |
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Post by Stove on Jul 23, 2014 0:56:48 GMT
Currently dying of laughter at this.Oh, if only ChromxCordelia was possible. I'd love to see more rediculous hilarity of Cordelia being a lovesick psycho and Chrom being an oblivious idiot. |
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Post by Stove on Jul 23, 2014 1:40:09 GMT
Triple posting~
So I'm probably going to buy every Fire Emblem I can now, but first I have to buy all $52.50 of DLC for Awakening.
...I really wish I had been introduced to this series sooner. Awakening is probably my favorite game of all time now. No joke. In the 2 and a half weeks I've owned this game, I've invested about 200 hours into it. My other most played game (probably), Pokemon X, I've invested about 400 hours in...in about 9 months. I've invested half that time into Awakening in 1/18th of the time.
To be fair, I was always fond of these kinds of games, but Fire Emblem Awakening has more gameplay depth and complexities to it than any other SRPG I've played.
After I get DLC I'm gonna tackle Lunatic, and then...Luna+. On Casual because from what I've heard Luna+ is still fun on casual if you're very, very good at the series, but Luna+Classic is hell for just about anyone. ...May Naga watch over me for Luna+ anyway because I'm sure there will be much rage.
(Al already replied to this but I felt it didn't belong in the spam thread so it got moved here.)
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Post by Indigo on Jul 23, 2014 2:03:46 GMT
... Huh. Every time I try to talk to her, the conversation ends up turning weird.
For the question earlier, I'm only on Chapter 15, but I know I'm about to go full burst again. Part of it has been that I've been doing every 'random encounter' that pops up every time I open my 3DS, and catching up some characters. The whole cast, second classes (and Nowi/Panne) aside, is now 15-20.
Catching characters back up isn't too hard. Go into a random field battle, and pair an unit up, and focus on them getting kills, using a tanker or two with weak weapons. Got Gaius from 6-13 in one mission, then to 16 on another where I also leveled Vaike up some. So, a few levels made a bigger difference than I thought, Gaius is actually pretty reliable now.
Vaike, not as much... Axe low accuracy screws things up sometimes, his low defense lets him get ganged on and killed easily (and 0 res lol), his low speed means he'll basically never dodge anything, and never hit twice, while a lot of stuff will hit him for huge damage twice. He's alright to finish off something that's grazed a bit, though... But even in burst damage a mage seems much better and safer (with better defense and speed and res). Well, I'll find an use for him yet, I'm sure he'll become something great once promoted.
And Kellam an Assassin? He's already at level 20 for me, I was thinking of making him a general because he and Frederick are my tanks... And Generals are like gundams.
P.S. I've also loved Fire Emblem since I played the first (English) one on GBA... And that's the only one I played 'till now. So... In a strange way. I've always really loved the lore, art, and stuff... And one of the things I love best about the series is the main theme. Dunno why, I just love the theme so much. Still loving Brawl's version.
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Post by Stove on Jul 23, 2014 2:30:14 GMT
... Huh. Every time I try to talk to her, the conversation ends up turning weird. For the question earlier, I'm only on Chapter 15, but I know I'm about to go full burst again. Part of it has been that I've been doing every 'random encounter' that pops up every time I open my 3DS, and catching up some characters. The whole cast, second classes (and Nowi/Panne) aside, is now 15-20. Catching characters back up isn't too hard. Go into a random field battle, and pair an unit up, and focus on them getting kills, using a tanker or two with weak weapons. Got Gaius from 6-13 in one mission, then to 16 on another where I also leveled Vaike up some. So, a few levels made a bigger difference than I thought, Gaius is actually pretty reliable now. Vaike, not as much... Axe low accuracy screws things up sometimes, his low defense lets him get ganged on and killed easily (and 0 res lol), his low speed means he'll basically never dodge anything, and never hit twice, while a lot of stuff will hit him for huge damage twice. He's alright to finish off something that's grazed a bit, though... But even in burst damage a mage seems much better and safer (with better defense and speed and res). Well, I'll find an use for him yet, I'm sure he'll become something great once promoted. And Kellam an Assassin? He's already at level 20 for me, I was thinking of making him a general because he and Frederick are my tanks... And Generals are like gundams. Assassin is a fantastic class with huge skill and speed with very good attack as well. It's only problem is low, low defense...and Kellam only loses a fraction of his defense when switching to an Assassin. So Kellam as an Assassin gives him higher attack, higher skill, higher speed, higher res, about the same luck, and the loss of a little defense and health. (Oh, and bows which is a great thing.) Assassin is a fantastic option after you've trained Kellam as tanky class(es.) However, if you do decide to be an Assassin, you should become a Great Knight first and level it up some, then pick Assassin. This is a good idea for multiple reasons: 1. Kellam gets Luna. Luna is fantastic. 2. It'll give you some time to increase his sword level so when you switch to Assassin you won't have both weapon options as E ranks so he won't lack in power. (Assassin gets swords and bows) 3. You keep Kellam's high defense growth longer, meaning his defense as an assassin is higher. 4. Great Knight is more balanced and altogether stronger than General regardless. Movement is an extremely important stat, and having a measly movement of five will cause Kellam to get left behind in skirmishes and altogether cause him to get much less experience. Okay, since you're at chapter 15 that means you know about the kids. Good, I can stop trying to not mention that. So Gaius has an alternative niche that is a good reason to train him, as, when he marries someone and they have a kid, if that kid is a female they will get access to the pegasus knight branch, even though neither parent has it. Pegasi are the best flying units in the game really (Wyverns have too low res stats so Bows still hit hard and wind magic really rips through them, and Griffons, while more balanced, don't like only having Axes as a weapon option. Having only one weapon option for any class unless it's Tomes...it's not a good thing.) since their res is generally very high meaning they patch up one of their weaknesses in wind magic (most wind mages can't do squat for damage on my pegasi.) That aside, they also get great skills (whereas the only good skill in the wyvern line is Deliverer(which is fantastic mind you)) These are skills like Galeforce, Rally Movement and Lancefaire, which increases your Str by 5 points with a lance equipped. Later on in the game you'll find "brave" weapons, which double the amount of attacks the person equipped with them does (Example: someone only doing one attack will do two, and someone doing two will do four.) You may have found an Eirika's sword, or a Cecilia's Gale from event tiles. They do the same thing but you can't purchase them so they're far more rare. (An extra note, someone doing a dual strike with a brave weapon does two hits per dual strike.) Basically, with Lancefaire and a brave lance, you're doing 20 more damage. That aside, Falcon Knight (upgrade of Pegasus knight) has a higher movement than any other healer in the game (and doesn't suffer from terrain lowering movement like Valkyries.) Dark Flier is the same for tome users. They obviously need to watch out for archers since they will rip them apart, but pegasi are the best of the flying mounts. tl;dr, Gaius gives female children the Pegasus Knight class (so does Donnel.) |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2014 2:30:21 GMT
Speakking of OST... this is easily my favoruite from the entire series.
Brawls is so damn memorable though...
I never thought to change anyone's class like Kellams to an assassin. The idea feels really strange to me. I guess I only ever really did that with the MC and Morgan for a ton of skills.
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Post by Stove on Jul 23, 2014 3:31:48 GMT
Speakking of OST... this is easily my favoruite from the entire series. Brawls is so damn memorable though... I never thought to change anyone's class like Kellams to an assassin. The idea feels really strange to me. I guess I only ever really did that with the MC and Morgan for a ton of skills. Yeah, a few characters are not at their best as their canon classes. Kellam's a really big example due to being a really effective assassin, or switching him to a war monk for a time to get acess to renewal. |
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Post by Indigo on Jul 23, 2014 23:54:44 GMT
Ain't nobody got time for pairing now that enemies are all level 20 and include second classes...
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