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Post by Stove on Aug 20, 2014 11:21:24 GMT
If he can support with Flavia, 6/10. If not, 5/10 He can, but it's only A. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2014 15:11:45 GMT
Like I care for supports anyway, only the MU/anyone and Inigo/Severa are supported in my army. 6/10
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Post by Stove on Aug 22, 2014 1:11:54 GMT
Holder of stock in destiny hogwash gets a 5/10.
Since I was rushed and busy today, I forgot about this so...double day!
Next, Flavia. Flavia is better than Basilio, nuff said. She gets Bow Knight (only mounted archer) and Armsthrift, Sol, Luna, Pavise, DG+, Locktouch and Acrobat. I normally don't mention Acrobat, but with a Bow Knight it's fantastic. Lack of supports hurts a lot as usual, but atleast she can A support Basilio. 6/10, great unit despite no OPforce but no supports really hurt.
After that, we have Gangrel. Gangrel is too weird to actually be usable. He gets Counter and...Axefaire? Vengeance? Yeah...he gets several skills that do a whole lot of NOTHING for him, and average skills. Oh, and Barbarian is near- useless for him since he has higher magic mods. 2/10, just like Anna. Oh, and that support thing too. I almost forgot.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2014 2:35:21 GMT
Flavia 6/10
I used Gangrel for a while because I had little other choice. I love the idea of using a previous villain in battle, too, and his trickster/assassin routes gives him all the skills he'll need. Combine skills such as lucky 7, maybe even critical 25, pass, vengence, life taker, and DLC skills like limit breaker and dread fighter, and he'll do fine. 7/10
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Post by Stove on Aug 23, 2014 2:24:35 GMT
Flavia gets 6/10, Gangrel gets 4.5/10 (until Claxus sees this and posts his score)
Next, Walhart. Walhart is really solid. Conquest is a really awesome skill, Conqueror is a better Great Knight (already a very good class) and he gets Conquest, Luna, DG+, Pavise, and Deliverer. Lack of supports as usual, but he's really the second best spotpass mission character, and a great father for a tank Morgan due to Conquest and high Str/Def mods for a 1st gen parent. 7/10. Walhart is love, Walhart is life. He's also the only spotpass character I married because Walhart sexy and he wants to co quer the world through love and happiness. That's pretty boss.
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Post by Indigo on Aug 23, 2014 2:35:36 GMT
I could have sworn I replied here...
5.5/10 for Flavia. She's about on par with Basilio, though perhaps just a bit better for her thief line. She's also supposedly with the group from pretty early on... Why aren't they actually playable until the end? And why do they compete for leadership by hiring random armies?
Gangrel... 4/10? Honestly I haven't gotten any of the end-game units... But he does seem relatively useful with a Dark Mage and Thief line. Berserker does give him Wrath, which sounds like he could really abuse with Ruin. I still refuse to believe the end-game paralogues are meant to be in the same timeline or whatever, though, bringing back all those characters is silly, especially having someone like Gangrel as an ally, someone who would have sooner died than help Chrom and the gang.
Walhart, love and happiness?! Yep, alternate timeline, or just plain what-if scenario characters... Well, he does look like a good 7/10... Pretty much a stronger version of Frederick. Great Knights are great but Walhart takes the cake! I kind of liked his character, as he was the only character who actually fought for non-evil reasons along with Say'ri's brother, but he's still a jerk.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2014 10:23:15 GMT
Oh man, Walhart is awesome. I use him all the time. I wasn't able to pick up the brother because the princess died, so I wouldn't know if he's somehow better, but Walhart is a top tier unit. 8/10.
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Post by Stove on Aug 23, 2014 13:51:36 GMT
I could have sworn I replied here... 5.5/10 for Flavia. She's about on par with Basilio, though perhaps just a bit better for her thief line. She's also supposedly with the group from pretty early on... Why aren't they actually playable until the end? And why do they compete for leadership by hiring random armies? Gangrel... 4/10? Honestly I haven't gotten any of the end-game units... But he does seem relatively useful with a Dark Mage and Thief line. Berserker does give him Wrath, which sounds like he could really abuse with Ruin. I still refuse to believe the end-game paralogues are meant to be in the same timeline or whatever, though, bringing back all those characters is silly, especially having someone like Gangrel as an ally, someone who would have sooner died than help Chrom and the gang. Walhart, love and happiness?! Yep, alternate timeline, or just plain what-if scenario characters... Well, he does look like a good 7/10... Pretty much a stronger version of Frederick. Great Knights are great but Walhart takes the cake! I kind of liked his character, as he was the only character who actually fought for non-evil reasons along with Say'ri's brother, but he's still a jerk. Walhart's S support with FeMU, and I quote: "With you at my side, the path to glory shall be an easier one. Let us become as gods of strength and happiness!" My bad, not love and happiness. I was close though. |
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Post by Stove on Aug 26, 2014 2:32:23 GMT
Inexorable gets a 7.33/10
Next, (sorry I've been so busy so I've glazed over this!) :
Emmeryn. 5/10. Not even galeforce can save her. No supports, Renewal/Galeforce/DS+/Tomefaire is okay though.
Yen'Fay. 0.1/10 only 3 useful skills like Tikitrash, no supports, and no strong stats like Tikitrash. Need I say more? Worst unit in the game.
Aversa. 8/10. Galeforce, Lifetaker, Deliverer, Tomefaire, and SHADOWGIFT. Shadowgift is not as good for Aversa as it is for Morgan but it makes Aversa an amazing parent and spouse for MU while being a great unit herself. Galeforce puts her over Walhart for great unique skill holder.
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Post by Indigo on Aug 26, 2014 19:27:56 GMT
5/10 Emmeryn's kind of average... Usable but held back by end-game character status, so anyone like Lissa or Maribelle can do her job a lot better. It's not only silly she 'gets brought back' but that she can also be a fighter... She was about as much as a pacifist as Gangrel would refuse to side with her, and there they both are.
Yen'fay 6/10... 0.1? Geez, this guy's at least on par with Lon'qu, and that's just so hilariously low that there's obviously more Tikibias. He has a very hefty skill stat to go along with his skills, and he can be a very adept Sniper. Still, with Killing Edge + Astra + Lethality and his Speed, pretty much one of those things will always activate, and he's hard to hit. He's just an excellent swordsman overall, his main drawback is his crappy defense and his lack of supports, but he's a real killer even on his own. And again, pretty good character though short-lived, as he was one of the few 'villains' with actual human reason.
7.5/ten for Aversa. Shadowgift is a really awesome skill, but her below-average melee makes it a bit of a moot point, since she's just going to be best as a Dark Mage anyway (or played like one at least), with not much use for melee in her class choices, and close to the highest Magic in the game. It's still an amazing skill to pass on, though, despite that it can only happen end-game. Aversa... Likes Validar too much. I still don't understand why Validar would save her in the first place.
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Post by Stove on Aug 26, 2014 20:41:06 GMT
No. I like Yen'Fay, he's a really cool character. He's just terrible. He is essentially Lon'Qu if you remove his supports.
...which is the main reason to use Lon'Qu (in my opinion)
No bias, I just think he's the worst unit in the game, and even if the difference between him and tiki is small, I'm giving the worst unit the worst score, and the best one the best score.
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Post by Indigo on Aug 26, 2014 20:56:54 GMT
I guess that makes sense. I was thinking more of what grade a character would get in a combat exam, not having the worst unit as literally the end of a scale, and the best on another. I still don't really see how you consider him that bad when he's a Lon'qu with better stats/growths, and a very capable Archer line instead of the semi-pointless Thief/Trickster classes Lon'qu gets. No supports is crippling, but is that seriously worth the difference of Lon'qu's 8/10 to 0.1/10 when he's statistically better?
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Post by Stove on Aug 26, 2014 21:40:28 GMT
I guess that makes sense. I was thinking more of what grade a character would get in a combat exam, not having the worst unit as literally the end of a scale, and the best on another. I still don't really see how you consider him that bad when he's a Lon'qu with better stats/growths, and a very capable Archer line instead of the semi-pointless Thief/Trickster classes Lon'qu gets. No supports is crippling, but is that seriously worth the difference of Lon'qu's 8/10 to 0.1/10 when he's statistically better? Better stats? Not really. Yen'fay gets 1 strength over Lon'Qu, and 1 speed. Lon'qu gets one skill over Yen'Fay, one defense, and one resistance. Caps means more than base stats especially in this case because, by this point, Lon'Qu is as powerful as you train him to be. He could already be stronger than Yen'Fay by the time you get him. What's the point in using Yen'Fay if Lon'Qu is already better in every way? (Oh, also, Thief isn't all bad. Lon'Qu gets two decent skills, Acrobat and Lucky Seven out of it. Archer gives Yen'Fay...Bowfaire and Hit+20. Bowfaire is pointless unless you do make him an archer or an assassin, and Hit+20...Yen'Fay's Speed is so high he probably won't be missing anyway. At least Lucky Seven makes Lon'Qu even harder to hit in addition to making his hit rate even more insane.) Really even the main reason people use the Archer class is for a support unit (Yen'Fay has no supports. This purpose is moot.) and for Lunatic+ (by the time you have Yen'Fay, the only other missions to do are other spotpass, missed paralogues that should now be stupidly easy since you're at endgame, the final level, and DLC, which doesn't have the enemies with the Luna+ skills that are oh-so annoying.) Therefore, Archer is kinda pointless for Yen'Fay, and he would prefer Thief. If he came earlier in the game and had supports...Yen'Fay would be good. But he doesn't, so he isn't. |
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Post by Stove on Aug 27, 2014 2:43:11 GMT
Guess Al isn't gonna reply.
Emmeryn gets a 5/10, Yen'Fay gets a 3.05/10, and Aversa gets a 7.75/10.
Next (and the last adult unit), Priam. Priam is great. He gets pretty much the ideal male class setup (Merc, Myrmidon, Fighter. If he had barbarian instead it'd be perfect.) This gives him a plethora of great skills like Vantage, Astra, Swordfaire, Armsthrift, Sol, and Counter. That's great. (And he comes with Ragnell, the only universally usable non-magic ranged sword in the game.) Obviously, no supports kills him. Shame too, he'd be a great father. 6/10.
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Post by Indigo on Aug 27, 2014 7:59:45 GMT
r.i.p. Al this week
6.5/10 for Ragnell hax. Actually it's not that hax but its 2-tile range is a really awesome utility. Other than that, his stats are good, and he has so many good skills than he knows what to do with... But forever a lone wolf unit. At least it actually suits him, but he really should fight for his friends.
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Post by Stove on Aug 27, 2014 11:48:53 GMT
r.i.p. Al this week 6.5/10 for Ragnell hax. Actually it's not that hax but its 2-tile range is a really awesome utility. Other than that, his stats are good, and he has so many good skills than he knows what to do with... But forever a lone wolf unit. At least it actually suits him, but he really should fight for his friends. Nice touch there at the end.  |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2014 15:20:43 GMT
I have a brief moment of respite from two player Xillia and DnD!
I like Emmeryn and Aversa, wont score them since they've already been scored.
Priam gets a 7/10 for me. He's a really good unit, though I'm obviously disappointed that Ragnel has become slightly weaker and that he doesn't get aether, but he's still really good.
*slap* everything is bias. Bias is love. Bias is life. I think the phrase you might be looking for is 'fairness' or whatever.
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Post by Stove on Aug 27, 2014 16:22:24 GMT
*slap* bias is seen as unfair. If my descision is fair, then it is not bias, and even if my descision is seen as UNfair, not everything is biased.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2014 18:18:04 GMT
Sorry, I was thinking of something else. I've just been thinking about opinions recently.
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Post by Stove on Sept 4, 2014 12:10:10 GMT
Could've sworn I posted what I was doing about this. I put this on hiatus to decide how to do the children. Basically, just do it for who you think are the best parents/how viable they were for you.
First up, Lucina. Lucina is one of the top 5 children in my book. She's Chrom, but with Galeforce. And Vantage/Astra/Swordfaire. (From Olivia) And Pass if she becomes an archer. 9.8/10.
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