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Post by Indigo on Jul 4, 2013 8:29:42 GMT
I sort of get why I had no choice but to hold back on that, but this was a bit after Naegi convinced Kirigiri to let out her own secret, talking about trust and friendship. When it's his turn, he doesn't return her favor. The thing is, just telling Kirigiri what he saw wasn't necessarily going to incite anything, it was just a piece of information they would have to inspect. It's not like she would have gone around telling everyone, blatantly believing something Naegi said without evidence as a harsh truth. With that considered, and Kirigiri having shared quite a big discovery of her own, it didn't sit right with me, as she said quite well, Naegi's hypocritical friendship.
That aside... The next series of events seemed to have happened much more quickly this time around. Already time for the trial... A bit expected, but it's sad to see the powerful, wise, and friendly go... But the justice behind Oogami's death will be found. Deception in life, truth in death. Betrayal for life, and betrayal for death. Justification of life, and rationalization of death... And all that other quote stuff I say just before getting off the elevator to the trial. Watch over me, Maizono...
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2013 16:14:09 GMT
I wont comment on anything at the moment because you're in the middle of a trial.
But I will post to say that the first episode of the Dangan Ronpa anime is airing today. Lets hope its a good one, it's the same director behind it as the excellent persona 4 animation, who seems to do as good a job as he can at including everything even if he has to condense some details. I'm sure it will be top quality, but at only 13 episodes my main concern is that it will be too rushed. This game really deserved an adaption of around 20 episodes or so. After all, mystery hooks are a great way to keep people coming back next week... anyway, I'll post my thoughts on the first episode once I watch it.
EDIT: So I just watched the first episode unsubbed. Weird seeing it streamed directly from Japanese TV. Felt awesome to literally be among the first to watch it.
Anyway it seems to be going at the fast pace I expected, with them pretty much combining the introduction and gymnasium scenes. But its doing pretty good so far and it looks and sounds amazing. To give you an idea of the pace, it ends on Maizono freaking out after watching the DVD.
Also is it me or is Ms Enoshima far more Tsundre then I remember her being...?
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Post by Indigo on Jul 5, 2013 7:34:22 GMT
Enoshima, tsundere? It's not like she really liked anyone to be tsundere, but she did kind of have that rough-but-nice thing going, or just entirely nice at times. I may end up watching the anime sooner than I thought... The game has been a lot different than my expectations. Something more akin to a shonen Phoenix Wright with cases on a much more personal scale. But... How many time must I watch Maizono die?
And the others, too... Like Oogami. I originally suspected it actually was suicide, and so it was... Got thrown off a lot in the trial though with 3 people admitting murder and Togami getting shaken up, but in the end, Oogami sacrificed her own life for the greater cause of justice, for everyone else.
Time to push on with yet another loss of a friend, as a new student supposedly approaches. Unfortunately, I can feel yet another death approaches in this horrible place.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2013 16:07:57 GMT
Things be heating up now... your just powering through this game. Anyway, what were your oriognal expectations for this game? Abracadabra, animeAlso I forgot to mention that Dangan Ronpa is getting a remake on the PSP Vita. Dangan Ronpa 1.2 reloaded will be a remake of both games, combining them onto one cartridge. Although not many features have been mentioned, I think its safe to assume that some of the updates introduced in the sequel will be applied to DR1, and there may be extra scenes and such for both games, but other than a combination of the games and perhaps some touch controls (which were already implemented in the ISO port of the first game)but what I'm trying to get at is that the only thing that HAS been confirmed is a 'school mode' and an 'island mode' (obviously representing the locales of the two games respectively) which basically just seem to be an expansion of the game's social features. And by social features I mean among the characters, not with real people, obviously. Screw multi-player. Not sure what, if anything, they could do to improve the games with a remake like this though... they're basically perfect games, and even the improvements from the first game would require a major retooling of many of the trial segments. Because, you know, most of the gameplay improvements were implemented in the trial segments... and by improvements, I mean more minigames, and a complete retooling of the machine gun talk battle... I'm rambling now. Anyway, It would be nice if they added an extra case for this port. Even if its a what if scenario or whatever. Dangan Ronpa seems to like what if scenarios. |
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Post by Indigo on Jul 5, 2013 23:35:32 GMT
I thought it would be much more gritty at first, more about people at each other's throats locked up in a school, not mostly about trying to work together with friendship, in an indoors paradise. Didn't know there were trials, either. Kinda combines the things I like about Persona and Phoenix Wright.
Did you read Dangan Ronpa IF?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2013 23:45:54 GMT
Did you read Dangan Ronpa IF? Yeah I thought it was pretty good. I recomend that you don't read it until you complete the game though, major spoilers right from the get go. |
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Post by Stove on Jul 6, 2013 1:46:17 GMT
Did you read Dangan Ronpa IF? Yeah I thought it was pretty good. I recomend that you don't read it until you complete the game though, major spoilers right from the get go. What he said. |
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Post by Doublesuya on Jul 6, 2013 2:03:50 GMT
Yeah, after looking over several youtube videos with this, I can only think of one thing:
"freak that bear, I want to destroy him."
All things considered, he really is the cause of the whole story and it's conflict.
"It's because of that sense of justice that war never ends"
It's also because of that sense of justice that assholes like you will never have your way, Monokuma!! *ATTACKS THE EVIL BEAR!!*
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Post by Stove on Jul 6, 2013 2:11:14 GMT
Yeah, after looking over several youtube videos with this, I can only think of one thing: "freak that bear, I want to destroy him." All things considered, he really is the cause of the whole story and it's conflict. "It's because of that sense of justice that war never ends" It's also because of that sense of justice that assholes like you will never have your way, Monokuma!! *ATTACKS THE EVIL BEAR!!* And then tons of spears suddenly impale you. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2013 2:21:38 GMT
Yeah, after looking over several youtube videos with this, I can only think of one thing: "freak that bear, I want to destroy him." All things considered, he really is the cause of the whole story and it's conflict. "It's because of that sense of justice that war never ends" It's also because of that sense of justice that assholes like you will never have your way, Monokuma!! *ATTACKS THE EVIL BEAR!!* If only you knew the true reasons behind Monobear's thinking... 'tis truly glorious. Anyway undoubtably the characters suffer the death and pain in the story because of Monobear... then again, there would be no story without Monobear. So that would suck. Your justice would also be worthless without people like Monobear. The problem with destroying all injustice in the world is that your job will then become meaningless, and when you die injustice returns. Wait what am I talking about... this all seems rather unrelated. I can't let people know that I'm secretly a latent super-villain... |
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Post by Indigo on Jul 6, 2013 2:37:37 GMT
What part of injustice being destroyed is meaningless? That's... Kind of the whole point of justice, Just because there would no longer be anything to fight doesn't mean the job being over is a bad thing, just that the ultimate goal has been reached.
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Post by Stove on Jul 6, 2013 5:57:54 GMT
Yeah, after looking over several youtube videos with this, I can only think of one thing: "freak that bear, I want to destroy him." All things considered, he really is the cause of the whole story and it's conflict. "It's because of that sense of justice that war never ends" It's also because of that sense of justice that assholes like you will never have your way, Monokuma!! *ATTACKS THE EVIL BEAR!!* If only you knew the true reasons behind Monobear's thinking... 'tis truly glorious. Anyway undoubtably the characters suffer the death and pain in the story because of Monobear... then again, there would be no story without Monobear. So that would suck. Your justice would also be worthless without people like Monobear. The problem with destroying all injustice in the world is that your job will then become meaningless, and when you die injustice returns. Wait what am I talking about... this all seems rather unrelated. I can't let people know that I'm secretly a latent super-villain... Uh...secretly? You sure about that? |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2013 12:09:44 GMT
I forgot that I'm not particularly subtle.  I'd be happy to go over my stance on justice anytime but not here. This isn't the time or the thread. (Especially since this game's central conflict is between hope and despair, not justice and injustice) Plus, unlike some of my other world views which I usually hope promote some introspection even if it leads to you disagreeing with me even more strongly, I wouldn't want anyone to even consider for a moment that there may be even the slightest lick of truth in my words. Until then just assume that I'm two dimensional pure evil.  |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2013 0:39:58 GMT
Looks like the first game is getting localized on vita.I may have to get a vita now. Although, since this is supposed to basically be reload, why are they only releasing half of the game? With the fan translation everyone who has heard of Dangan Ronpa will have already played the fantranslation or read the LP. However, people like Claxus wont read the LP and as such they wont be able to see the second game for a long time. A port of both games would be best to maximize sales, I mean they could have just purchased the fan translation if it was going to take too long to translate both games. Unless the gameplay is wildly different, the only reason to get this edition is for the english dub which they may inevitably do. There's not even that much voice work to begin with though...
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Post by Indigo on Jul 9, 2013 7:26:40 GMT
Forgot to stay up to date here. So, chapter 5, that's over. Pretty interesting turn of events. Not just the typical trial, so it was a nice change of pace and logic. I almost called Kirigiri out on her lie, but realized the whole trial really didn't make sense, and she trusted me with knowledge of the headmaster's key. Still, I did reload because I was interested in what would happen... Pretty sad how she just gets executed.
And so, now the ultimate race begins. Not a simple trial of murder, but the trial that will determine everything. A trial against the entire school, in the name if justice, friendship, and hope. Time to investigate and reach out to the truth -- no, the myriad truths! Filth of the land, hear my words, and see my actions! I am... Not going to finish quoting all if that. But Monobearenza, you're going down!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2013 7:29:15 GMT
Forgot to stay up to date here. So, chapter 5, that's over. Pretty interesting turn of events. Not just the typical trial, so it was a nice change of pace and logic. I almost called Kirigiri out on her lie, but realized the whole trial really didn't make sense, and she trusted me with knowledge of the headmaster's key. Still, I did reload because I was interested in what would happen... Pretty sad how she just gets executed. And so, now the ultimate race begins. Not a simple trial of murder, but the trial that will determine everything. A trial against the entire school, in the name if justice, friendship, and hope. Time to investigate and reach out to the truth -- no, the myriad truths! Filth of the land, hear my words, and see my actions! I am... Not going to finish quoting all if that. But Monobearenza, you're going down! Good luck! Your going to need if for this trial. You probably should have chosen to point out Kirigiri's lie first, since the game takes you immediately back to the option after the false ending. Which was really creepy by the way, did they all impregnate Aoi, and did Fukawa die?  |
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Post by Indigo on Jul 9, 2013 7:42:37 GMT
Yeah, I reloaded and took the path to that secret 'end.' Like I said, Kirigiri's execution was pretty sad, especially knowing it was a setup. That crunch at the end... So cruel and resounding. And then that ending picture, like... I swear they all took drugs from that one room, because that picture was really nuts. I didn't even try to make sense of it when I saw all those kids and Togami smiling warmly.
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Post by Stove on Jul 9, 2013 7:45:25 GMT
^I'm not sure if I want to see that right before I go to bed...I'll see tomorrow.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2013 19:01:20 GMT
Second episode of the anime came out and it was really good. They just went up the elevator to the first trial.
So the 3rd episode seems like it will be the trial in its entirety, and since they went through Maizono's pre trial this episode it seems they'll be covering a chapter every 2 episodes.
So prologue took 1, chapter 1 brings it up to 3...
C.2>5
C.3>7
C.4>9
C.5>11
C.6>12
Mmm... not sure I like that. Hopefully chapter 5 will be condensed somehwhat since chapter 6 really deserves 2 episodes. They lead into each other pretty quickly though unlike the other chapters so I actually think the anime will have a pretty good pace. They probably should have doubled the length to 24 episodes so that they could spend an extra episode on each chapter, but as is I still think this will be a pretty good adaption.
Also, the blood is still pink so yay?
There's also a new opening theme that sounds quite similar to persona 3's soundtrack but honestly I'm not sure if I like it that much. Maybe I need to listen to it more.
I love the ending song though.
Hey Claxus how's chapter 6 going? There is virtually no time between trials so I'm surprised that we haven't heard from you. Don't want to rush you of course... but yeah.
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Post by Indigo on Jul 11, 2013 21:44:15 GMT
I've just been setting the finale off a lot... I started watching Valvrave, which I really like, so I spend most of the time watching that instead recently. In the investigation, I've explored the faculty dorms, and found out about the headmaster and Kirigiri...
On a side note, Togami is a rather interesting character. It seems like he just puts on an egoist mask most of the time.
Why don't you be a good little failure, and find a herd of other failures to fail together with, failure?
How dull would your life be if you were never needed?
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