Borg Tier List

[Dogmantra]

Dec 5, 2009 6:30:04 GMT Admin said:

As long as a Borg has both feet (or wheels) on the ground,

That's your problem then. There should be no reason that any borg is on the ground for more than a second at a time. Boost jumps get a little more leniency, but if they have air jumps, there's no reason not to just dodge in the air. You're faster, harder to hit and specifically harder to hit with splash damage at the cost of looking a bit silly and maybe wearing your control stick out more quickly from all that dodging.

[Admin]

^ I meant Borgs that are grounded, i.e. not flying like Wing- and fortresses Borgs.
Of course I know you still have to deal with jumping and dodging enemies, but as long as they literally can't take flight, and stay far away from you indefinitely, the fight is still on.

[Dogmantra]

Dec 5, 2009 10:24:32 GMT Admin said:

as long as they literally can't take flight, and stay far away from you indefinitely, the fight is still on.

That's your problem then. You're playing with people who think that there's a reason to ever touch the ground with any borg ever. Even Dragons.

[yuurei]

I do go over the ground when i use a knights. They can't block well in the air... But yeah anyways. Admin i have used Accel ninja before, I used him alot because he was one of my mains for awhile. I don't hate Accel it's just he isn't good as anything other then a distraction most of the time.

Accel ninja is only good against tank's and people with crappy jumps and horrible airdashes.

Meanwhile where the hell is Beam Samurai on this tier list?! Can we do him next?

[juggernaut]

good attack, good stats and a nice price...... except he cant do range.

if anything, see how he does against the revised low tier. its a melee borg in a ranged world.

[yuurei]

Who you talkin bout Juggs? Accel or Beam Samurai?

[juggernaut]

beam samurai

[Admin]

I don't like Beam very much.
His damage output is unreliable and random, and his charger is active for such a short time it's hardly worth activating it.

[Dogmantra]

Dec 5, 2009 23:32:03 GMT Admin said:

his charger is active for such a short time

It lasts until you get hit. You can get some good use out of it.

[Admin]

^ It lasts more like 2 seconds or until you get hit.
Trust me, it does. I've pressed the charge button, started running toward the enemy on the other side, *poff* there goes the charger.
Unless you're supposed to keep the button pressed, which I've never tried.

[Dogmantra]

Dec 6, 2009 6:20:21 GMT Admin said:

^ It lasts more like 2 seconds or until you get hit.

Hmm... I've only used him a couple of times (I don't actually have him, but my brother does). Neither of us ever noticed that. Might give it a test. Be nice to play some Gotcha Force without having to also come up with some witty commentary for a change

EDIT: Just tested it, you're right, though it lasts more like 10 seconds. However! I believe if you press X again while your lightsabre is out, it doesn't refresh the duration, it stacks it. Thus, if you press X three or four times, you'll get a lot longer. At least, that's what it looks like from one short test. I need to do a little more.

EDIT2: Further testing shows that it doesn't stack the duration, but it does refresh it, at least, so you can tap it and it's a little quicker than getting it out from scratch.

[yuurei]

So wait Accel is in what tier? Low or Mid?

Beam Samurai's sword gets longer over time. If you can stall for awhile eventually his sword gets big enough that you can hit anyone from across the map. Pushing X when it's at that stage makes it stronger but with MUCH less range. X at the beginning fight a bit, kill some people, Then use the uncharged sword long range attacks.

List of attributes for his sword.

Uncharged:
Weaker but has massive range within 2 minutes my sword was able to hit people under the bench in the playground from the tunnel in the sandbox.
Power is still nothing to scoff at though.
Has a fair amount of stunning power.
Useful for killing anything smaller then Cyber Red. Including people who can fly..

Charged: about 2 to 3 times stronger than uncharged and has twice as much range as the uncharged sword in the beginning.
Later on it has less range but still has the same amount of power.
Last's about 6 and a half seconds by my count.
Has that weird attribute where it multi-hits like chainsaw knight's sword or Drill Robots Drills.
Useful for killing dragons and fortresses. I killed a small ice dragon in 5 forward B's in air.

[Admin]

Dec 6, 2009 12:02:50 GMT Dogmantra said:

Just tested it, you're right, though it lasts more like 10 seconds.

I tested it after I made my post to confirm if it really was 2 seconds, and it lasted for 5 seconds. Longer than I remembered but still only half of yours. How many levels does your (brother's) Beam has? Maybe that has something to do with it.

I already knew about the refreshing, and that's partly why I don't like Beam so much. You end up having to refresh that thing constantly, and that has caused me a lot of damage too many times.

Dec 6, 2009 20:02:18 GMT yuurei said:

Beam Samurai's sword gets longer over time.

I thought that was either due to charging, defeating enemies (like Demon- and Akuma Samurai) or simply random.


Guess I should give this fellow another try soon, but I must get that last gold crystal first.

[loopy]

Dec 7, 2009 8:29:20 GMT Admin said:

Dec 6, 2009 12:02:50 GMT Dogmantra said:

Just tested it, you're right, though it lasts more like 10 seconds.

I tested it after I made my post to confirm if it really was 2 seconds, and it lasted for 5 seconds. Longer than I remembered but still only half of yours. How many levels does your (brother's) Beam has? Maybe that has something to do with it.

I already knew about the refreshing, and that's partly why I don't like Beam so much. You end up having to refresh that thing constantly, and that has caused me a lot of damage too many times.

Dec 6, 2009 20:02:18 GMT yuurei said:

Beam Samurai's sword gets longer over time.

I thought that was either due to charging, defeating enemies (like Demon- and Akuma Samurai) or simply random.


Guess I should give this fellow another try soon, but I must get that last gold crystal first.

Beam Samurai's sword does get longer after either defeating an enemy or through charging doesn't it? O.o'

I've never seen it growing longer on its own but i guess a quick 2 player match (Where another borg just stares at a Beam Samurai) will tell the truth (not that im bothered enough to test it out XD)

[Dogmantra]

Dec 7, 2009 8:29:20 GMT Admin said:

Dec 6, 2009 12:02:50 GMT Dogmantra said:

Just tested it, you're right, though it lasts more like 10 seconds.

I tested it after I made my post to confirm if it really was 2 seconds, and it lasted for 5 seconds. Longer than I remembered but still only half of yours. How many levels does your (brother's) Beam has? Maybe that has something to do with it.

Yeah, I suck at times too. I tested it as well and it's five seconds.

[Admin]

Dec 7, 2009 19:41:54 GMT Dogmantra said:

Yeah, I suck at times too.

Are you insinuating I suck?

[juggernaut]

its hard to discuss tier placement when you barely understand the borg, tee hee.

[loopy]

Golly Gosh... Tee hee... W.T.F

I don't even remember what this topic is about. Did i even see the first post? ;D

I just jumped in and began talking. Now i don't have a clue what the big deal is.

[juggernaut]

golly gosh, if you read the thread you wouldnt have that problem

[yuurei]

Hah fun... So anyways can we get a consensus on Beam boy yet? I think that he could be Mid, but i'm too lazy too see whose in mid to be fully sure.