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Post by Metal on Jun 5, 2013 6:44:53 GMT
Wait is yamcha under/near the ocean/large body of water full of fish/aquatic creatures? Cause if not aquaman is doomed.
Also ganon, wait which ganon? Cause other than size bowsers abilites are pretty consistent.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2013 17:20:21 GMT
Ganon would be the pig monster of doom that ganondorf can turn into, rather than the man.
And... since I only know about his ocarina of time incarnation, I'd have to say that Ganon would probably win. Ganon appears resistant to most attacks save for the master sword, so fire would deal little damage. Not to mention, he only has one weapspot which is behind him and bowser is too slow to do so. Bowser isn't that intelligent either and he can be defeated by being jumped on in a variety of incarnations. Gannon also has those two huge sword creating larger reach, and a wider variety of magic.
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Post by Metal on Jun 5, 2013 19:49:51 GMT
Oh i know the difference between basic ganon and dorflehead. Which reminds me since ganon and demise share a soul does demise count in this as well?
Alsomthe first incaration of ganon chronologically is invisible, and the lttp one can do that too. Where as say the tp one is just a giant pig.
Even then, he is probably loads bigger than bowser (except sunshine bowser he was huge right?) So i give it to really any ganon.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2013 0:30:24 GMT
Bowser in super mario galaxy two was gigantic. Even so, I'd probably still give it to ganon, since Mario proves that size really means nothing in this matchup.
Xemnas vs Sephiroth.
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Post by Metal on Jun 6, 2013 1:13:16 GMT
Kh spephi or ff7 sephi? I still give it to sephs, because xemnas was dreadfully easy.
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Post by Stove on Jun 7, 2013 7:10:41 GMT
Ganon would be the pig monster of doom that ganondorf can turn into, rather than the man. And... since I only know about his ocarina of time incarnation, I'd have to say that Ganon would probably win. Ganon appears resistant to most attacks save for the master sword, so fire would deal little damage. Not to mention, he only has one weapspot which is behind him and bowser is too slow to do so. Bowser isn't that intelligent either and he can be defeated by being jumped on in a variety of incarnations. Gannon also has those two huge sword creating larger reach, and a wider variety of magic. Xemnas. Sephiroth is basically just a guy with a sword. :I Xemnas is like...god of nothingness. Just erase Sephiroth. Sephiroth is overrated anyway. And Demise...screw that canon. SS was okay, but I feel like any LoZ after Phantom Hourglass was garbage. (and TP if it came before.) I don't really feel "right" with the adult link games anyway. Link's supposed to be this crazy kid who's just saving the world. OoT did it fine, but TP and SS...no. It's not what makes or breaks a LoZ for me (Spirit Tracks sucked and it was kid link.) but it's a trend I noticed. The three games where Link is always an adult (LoZ2, TP, and SS) I have disliked. Of course, out of those three, SS is by far the best. ...doesn't mean I like it. Oh, and Al. I don't think Ganon's faced anything like Bowser's Rump Revival mode. Come on, you've played Bowser's inside story! If anything, Bowser can get so huge and strong he'll chuck Ganon INTO SPACE. Onward! Fully geared WW Link vs. Malus from SotC.
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Post by Metal on Jun 7, 2013 8:56:40 GMT
(Steve you havent played ff7 have you? Also if xemnas could do that, why didnt he do it to sora and riku to prevent his death. I also think your underestimating ganon. But i digress here.)
Whose whatever that dudes name was? From sotc.
I give it to link anyways. Hes rather resourceful canonically so hed discover a weakness and kill the other guy.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2013 14:02:20 GMT
I'd still give it to xemnas, even if he doesn't have anything close to the ability to erase people from existence. He can teleport, has access to huge amounts of laser swords,highly advanced magic, that metal dragon thing, under normal circumstances he takes a huge amount of hits to go down and he has an army of nobodies which he can summon out of thin air. Plus, look at the final attack. Two people had to be deflecting that. Bowser grows bigger than he does in Bowser's inside story in SMG2, and I still think Gannon would win. Gannon is arguably more intelligent and he has much stronger magic, plus it still doesn't take much for Bowser to go down even at that size, and that was by a short plumber. A few asteroids to the face and he's down for the count. It doesn't take a whole lot more in Bowser's inside story. Gannon could probably rush up onto Bowser's chest and start tearing into him. I mean seriously, know what your arguing against Steve, these aren't battles based upon what you like or dislike (Speaking of which what was wrong with spirit tracks? I personally liked it more than PH), they're based on judgements that are meant to be as objective as humanly possible. Sephiroth had access to highly advanced magic and is a genetically engineered super soldier using the DNA of an alien god, I think he's worth a look, even if I don't personally like him as a character. Howesever his stronger attacks like his meteror spells are easily dodged, even by someone who cannon teleport (sora) and again, nobodies could probably distract him while Xemnas attacks him. Unfortunately I have no idea who Malus is. And metal, the name is right there, you don't have to type out 'I don't know his name' or whatever when its right there in front of you. Also Link isn't exactly alone in the resourcefulness department, just about any video game character could count. It's not like he's really fought anything which doesn't have an incredibly obvious weak spot.
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Post by Metal on Jun 7, 2013 15:09:49 GMT
It doesnt show up on my phone when im typing a response. Also in ff7 meteor wouldve nuked the planet had they not stopped it. Idk how youd dodge that. Plus he has a couple additional forms too. Idk maybe xemnas would win, but idt itd be an easy victory for him.
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Post by Indigo on Jun 7, 2013 18:15:02 GMT
Lol Malus is cool and all, but remember that a normal human with only a sword and bow took it down (and 15 other giants). Link has many more resources, like the grappling hook to instantly climb up and the deku leaf to make big jumps otherwise. The mirror shield could also possibly stop Malus' energy beams.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2013 18:39:08 GMT
Oooooh MALUS. That thing. Sorry I don't remember much shadow of the colossus trivia, but rest assured I have played the game. And yes, Link could easily defeat that thing since Wander is basically Link with a much smaller arsenal. Although, Wander's sword is apparently the only thing that can fell the colossi. Link's master sword is the blade of evil's bane, but since the colossi aren't necessarily evil (debatable) would even the master sword be unable to pierce Malus' flesh?
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Post by Metal on Jun 7, 2013 19:34:50 GMT
Oooooh MALUS. That thing. Sorry I don't remember much shadow of the colossus trivia, but rest assured I have played the game. And yes, Link could easily defeat that thing since Wander is basically Link with a much smaller arsenal. Although, Wander's sword is apparently the only thing that can fell the colossi. Link's master sword is the blade of evil's bane, but since the colossi aren't necessarily evil (debatable) would even the master sword be unable to pierce Malus' flesh? Meh, the golden sword kills every thing. And link has had like a billion swords. Surely one of them would work. Also im pretty sure the bow can pierce the colossis flesh as well, or the arrows it fires rather, and they are just basic arrows. So link would probably still win.
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Post by Stove on Jun 7, 2013 20:50:43 GMT
Oooooh MALUS. That thing. Sorry I don't remember much shadow of the colossus trivia, but rest assured I have played the game. And yes, Link could easily defeat that thing since Wander is basically Link with a much smaller arsenal. Although, Wander's sword is apparently the only thing that can fell the colossi. Link's master sword is the blade of evil's bane, but since the colossi aren't necessarily evil (debatable) would even the master sword be unable to pierce Malus' flesh? The colossi aren't evil, they're the seal to an evil demon being. Sealing evil things = not evil. See my point? Also, while that bowser is larger, he's not nessecarily better. Besides, that bowser could probably chuck ganon off into nothingness too. Onward! ...again! Ridley(Metroid series) vs. Valoo (Wind Waker)
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2013 21:18:06 GMT
Oooooh MALUS. That thing. Sorry I don't remember much shadow of the colossus trivia, but rest assured I have played the game. And yes, Link could easily defeat that thing since Wander is basically Link with a much smaller arsenal. Although, Wander's sword is apparently the only thing that can fell the colossi. Link's master sword is the blade of evil's bane, but since the colossi aren't necessarily evil (debatable) would even the master sword be unable to pierce Malus' flesh? The colossi aren't evil, they're the seal to an evil demon being. Sealing evil things = not evil. See my point? Also, while that bowser is larger, he's not nessecarily better. Besides, that bowser could probably chuck ganon off into nothingness too. Onward! ...again! Ridley(Metroid series) vs. Valoo (Wind Waker) ... Sometimes my qualifiers and indefinite language don't come across, do they? That's why I brought up the argument, and now I'm not too sure. Then again as metal pointed out, even though it takes a bloody long time link could probably take potshots with arrows. Also, if they are evil seals, then the master sword may have an effect on the weak spots, which in themselves may be the actual seals, though my colossus lore isn't well polished. Also Bowser's throw is just a visual thing, he can't literally throw something into nothingness. He can just throw people far and that's just a delaying thing, unless Gannon can't breathe in space, which I don't think Bowser was ever proven to be capable of. Honestly though at this point I don't care. Ridley is made of metal, valoo is not. Plus apparently in other M he can evolve and he just doesn't seem able to die anyway. Although Valoo is quite a bit bigger possibly stronger, plus flame is a pretty good melter of metal so I'll have to ponder it a bit more before I could put in my two cents. ... Although, since Ridley is a bit faster, I'm inclined to think Ridley may take home the gold.
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Post by Metal on Jun 7, 2013 22:18:25 GMT
I give it to ridley. Valoo is lazy and fat. Ridley is a known killing machine in every metroid game he is present in. Also he cant die as he just comes back as an egg/puff thing/ meta ridley/ super dark samus ridley demon god thing/ i think you get the point.
Now for the combo breaker. Green arrow vs hawkeye.
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Post by Stove on Jun 8, 2013 5:35:01 GMT
Doesn't the fact that bowser IS IN SPACE in SMG2 prove he needs no air? Ganon's true form is human. Bowser is not.
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Post by Metal on Jun 8, 2013 6:30:07 GMT
Technically ganon is a gerudo, though the triforce/soul of demise warped him into a demon. I honestly doubt he needs air to breath. Also he holds the triforce of power which technically makes him the strongest being in existance. The only reason link and zelda can touch him is because they also have triforce pieces and wisdom and courage working together makes knowledge and knowledge is power? Idk but ganon is the "most powerful" being in the zelda universe do to the triforce of power.
Again i reiterate COMBO BREAKER GREEN ARROW VS HAWKEYE!!!!!!
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Post by Badog Vi Britania on Jun 8, 2013 6:46:27 GMT
green arrow, he can fire arrow's with one hand. (poor arguement is poor)
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Post by Stove on Jun 8, 2013 7:10:28 GMT
Neither. They're both almost exactly the same in terms of combat skill, aim. Weapon choice, and technology. It's just that one is Marvel, the other is DC.
Slade Wilson(Deathstroke) vs. Wolverine(Logan).
Both posess similar powers, but differing weapons.
Also, tatshould really reboot Titans Go Again. New characters, sure, but a reboot.
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Post by Metal on Jun 8, 2013 9:39:00 GMT
They arent almost the same character they are exactly the same character XD.
Also, they dont have similar powers slade is like batman but less smart and more deadly. Idt he has a super power. Whereas wolverine cant die unless he is completely disentigrated and has nothing to regenerate from. I give it to wolverine. His animal killing instinct plus his healing factor basically ensures victory.
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