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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2013 23:55:25 GMT
Well, now that's pretty hype... I always did want to buy P4A back, but I'll just wait for this. Actually, I don't see me buying any more games for a long time... What are you going to do in the meantime, then? Replay your library again? Anyway none of my business SO yeah I hope we can both get this when it comes out in the year 3000. I always found it a shame that we never got to play P4A together, so this will be a great opportunity. And hey, if Atlus really is brought up by Nintendo or Sega then the localisation times are bound to be much better. Nintendo of europe are still the most wonderful localisation people in the industry to me. |
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Post by Indigo on Aug 17, 2013 0:10:57 GMT
Meh, yeah, I've just been replaying some of my PSP games or PC games. It's not too bad. Anyway, in short, I screwed up and suck at life.
But also, just gonna mention it here while I'm at it... Accent Core +R is finally slated to release this month. Of course, us 360 users got the shaft and our patch will be coming later. Hopefully also within this month, but yeah, we can look forward to that too in the near future.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2013 0:24:09 GMT
Meh, yeah, I've just been replaying some of my PSP games or PC games. It's not too bad. Anyway, in short, I screwed up and suck at life. But also, just gonna mention it here while I'm at it... Accent Core +R is finally slated to release this month. Of course, us 360 users got the shaft and our patch will be coming later. Hopefully also within this month, but yeah, we can look forward to that too in the near future. What does R add again? I can only remembering hearing that it nerfed Justice to the point that one can actually use her justifiably. |
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Post by Indigo on Aug 17, 2013 0:35:57 GMT
Actually, I've been excited for just that... Can't wait to use Justice as a legit character. Kliff was also a 'super character' and he'll be downsized as well, but doesn't really matter to me. It was kinda funny how ridiculous he was, though. But here are some patch notes. Just a lot of refining and balancing. Probably makes the game a lot more enjoyable, there really was a lot of broken stuff. Not sure if we have a more comprehensive list than this right now: www.dustloop.com/forums/content.php?555-Incoming-Guilty-Gear-Accent-Core-R-Patch-Notes |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2013 1:04:28 GMT
Ok then maybe we should have some guilty gear matches in celebration then, once it comes out. Back to the topic, In some of the screenshots there are two huge spaces above Yukari and Junpei in the character slect screen. Who do you think potential new characters might be? Something else that I also found interesting about the character selection screen is that, it may just be me, but some characters seem to be 'opposite' to each other, in terms of their story relation, if you split it down the centre of the screen vertically, characters such as labrys and shadow labrys (obvious connection) are perfectly symetrical, same goes for the new characters. Also persona 3 characters (and both labrys')are along the bottom row and persona 4 characters rest along the top row. The two empty spaces also seem to be on the top row. Given that Yu is in the centre, perhaps moreso the mark of the symetry line with no equivilent opposite or even below him (random option below him) I find it unlikely that persona 3 MC will make it into the game unless he turns up below the random option, which seems unlikely. More interestingly is again, the empty spaces are along the top row, for the persona 4 characters. Does this mean that the two new editions will be persona 4 characters? Perhaps Adachi and Namatame? Actually, only Adachi is fesible since not even Namatame has a persona and I don't think any other characters from persona 4 have personas. Unless the developers really will go through with that stupid joke idea to have Dojima playable with Nanako filling in the persona role. Dumb. Shadow counterparts also make no sense due to the new normal/shadow type mechanic. ACTUALLY WAIT! There IS another persona 4 character not already in the game besides Adachi who is KNOWN to use personas! MARGRET!!!! That would seem to make sense, only Adachi and Margret have no connection and one would think that it would be best to place Margret opposite Elizabeth, and Elizabeth already has Aigis opposite her. Bearing that in mind, Namatame would seem to be the best oppposite for Adachi, since they're both human villains of persona 4. Ignoring all of my other bullshit, other candiadates for persona 3 include MC and Shinjiro (which is cannonically impossible or unlikely for the former) Ken, Koromaru, Metis, and strega. Actually I was always iffy on what actually happened to strega, apart from Chidori of course. Takaya would be a VERY interesting addition (although he isn't exactly a fan favorite) and some laughs could be had at having two arc system fighters with someone called Jin in them, who are both ice cold badasses with a slightly manic side (affinity towards ice, too? I can't remember Jin's moveset from the game that well) Ok, that's all I've got. Lets discuss. Oh, and videos. |
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Post by Indigo on Aug 17, 2013 2:18:25 GMT
Honestly I don't like to speculate much... I tend to just get excited with what is there for sure. I'm sure you know what it's like, when you were almost certain Minato was in P4A and he wasn't. Yeah, I just take what I can get these days. I used to speculate a lot, but eh, game developers always have other plans.
As for now... I'm just excited a new version of the game's come up, definitely one of my favorite fighters. I don't think I'll use anyone else that much besides Yosuke still, but it'll be great to have new balancing and an expansive roster/content.
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Post by Stove on Aug 17, 2013 4:05:11 GMT
I won't be able to play with you guys, but I've been really tempted to buy this.
Eh, Pikmin 3 is higher priority, as is finishing Mario&Luigi Dream Team.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2013 9:22:43 GMT
I won't be able to play with you guys, but I've been really tempted to buy this. Eh, Pikmin 3 is higher priority, as is finishing Mario&Luigi Dream Team. They wont be in about two years when this is released. |
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Post by Stove on Aug 17, 2013 16:10:51 GMT
I won't be able to play with you guys, but I've been really tempted to buy this. Eh, Pikmin 3 is higher priority, as is finishing Mario&Luigi Dream Team. They wont be in about two years when this is released. I'm referring to P4A. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2013 16:16:16 GMT
They wont be in about two years when this is released. I'm referring to P4A. Well you might as well wait until P4A2 anyway. No point in buying the current version now unless you want to see the easily found on youtube story... Seriously, look up Labrys' story. Amazing. |
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Post by Stove on Aug 17, 2013 16:21:17 GMT
Me, wait for two years for something I know no more than P4A?
Eh, no. If I buy either I'll buy the first, because I'll decide probably in a month.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2013 16:26:54 GMT
Me, wait for two years for something I know no more than P4A? Eh, no. If I buy either I'll buy the first, because I'll decide probably in a month. P4A2 is the same game but with more stuff added... The only reason to get the first one at this point is the story, unless your really desperate to play it, and without online matches or friends to regularly play with the content is rather limited. |
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Post by Stove on Aug 17, 2013 16:39:16 GMT
Me, wait for two years for something I know no more than P4A? Eh, no. If I buy either I'll buy the first, because I'll decide probably in a month. P4A2 is the same game but with more stuff added... The only reason to get the first one at this point is the story, unless your really desperate to play it, and without online matches or friends to regularly play with the content is rather limited. You all are really going to pay $50 for a game that should just have been DLC? |
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Post by Indigo on Aug 17, 2013 16:47:10 GMT
You payed for Pokemon BW2  |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2013 16:51:04 GMT
P4A2 is the same game but with more stuff added... The only reason to get the first one at this point is the story, unless your really desperate to play it, and without online matches or friends to regularly play with the content is rather limited. You all are really going to pay $50 for a game that should just have been DLC? Yes because it will be a continuation with presumably 4 extra additions (and already 2 confirmed excellent additons) with revamped mechanics, attacks, and visuals. The story left over from the last game will continue and it will be a fun game in its own right. Many game franchises do this. It's like saying... oh, I don't know, saying that buying the most recent Mario game is pointless and should have just been DLC because its gameplay is identical and only has a few more powerups and stages. Not to mention mario games don't even have an interesting story worth following or even as many additions as arcystems add to most of their games... not to mention mario games come out at a much faster rate meaning more money for less content. BUT they're fun in their own right so why should I care? I personally haven't fully enjoyed a mario game since super paper mario game on the Wii and nintendo does lots of other stuff besides mario to justify their more 'rooted' games series. Arc systems is a smaller company however and make lots of games, mostly fighting yes, but they perfected it to a fine art and 'xblaze' an upcoming visual novel suggests a similar expansion into other genres. Furthermore, why would you care for buying what you would call a 'roster update' if you never brought the first one? People were pissed at continum shift extend, but I brought it anyway because I never brought the original continum shift. I welcomed it because it was a complete package of all the previous DLC plus extra stuff for Blazblue's second installment. |
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Post by Stove on Aug 17, 2013 20:11:41 GMT
You payed for Pokemon BW2 It's not $50 though. In it's defense, aside from having the same formula from all the other pokemon games, it's not remotely similar to BW1. Like with what Al says about P4A2, it's a continuation of the story with returning faces and many new ones. Also I'm not only restricted to one generation of pokemon for the game. Obviously it's a similar point, but I actually played the first one. I have not played the first P4A. This makes a difference. Also, Al, that's exactly the same thing, I know that. The difference? I have never even played the P4A series, while I'm a long-time Mario fan. To be honest, I'm probably not even going to continue buying NSMB games. It's basically turned into the Mario version of CoD. and Yes, I went there. ONCE AGAIN, it is MY choice, not yours. This shouldn't even matter to you anyway, it's not like I'll be fighting you on the games regardless. EDIT: As one last point, if I wait until P4A2 comes out, I'm buying P4A1 anyway, because by then the price will most likely have dropped a good 20 bucks, letting me try the game and see if I actually even like it. If I do, I may buy the sequel. If not, I saved myself 20 dollars. |
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Post by Indigo on Aug 17, 2013 21:45:14 GMT
It was still a full price game for its console. But anyway, Al already went over why it's worth buying. It's like a sequel-expansion, much more than DLC.
Maybe you should just get Blazblue instead, though. Way more bang for your buck, as great as P4A is. P4A is probably a lot easier to get into as a fighting game, though...
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Post by Stove on Aug 17, 2013 21:53:36 GMT
It was still a full price game for its console. But anyway, Al already went over why it's worth buying. It's like a sequel-expansion, much more than DLC. Maybe you should just get Blazblue instead, though. Way more bang for your buck, as great as P4A is. P4A is probably a lot easier to get into as a fighting game, though... Yeah, I recall you mentioning how the inputs in BlazBlue were tough. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2013 22:56:04 GMT
Blazblue Continum shift extend has much more content (naturally, its been around longer.)and you could possibly find it around either dirt cheap or very expensive. I have no idea how rare it is.
Best part is that it also contains the calamity trigger storyline in the game so getting calamity trigger really is pointless.
Blazblue isn't too difficult when it comes to inputs. Now Guilty Gear, on the other hand, that's a different story altogether...
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Post by Indigo on Aug 17, 2013 23:15:00 GMT
It does kind of depend on who you use, though, on both games. Some inputs can actually be really tough for a lot of character's best combos, but the main part is you have to learn them and be able to execute them whenever you have to, under pressure and all.
Persona 4 Arena is overall more lenient on combos, but Blazblue has some really satisfying stuff once you get down those tough, long combos. P4A has some awesome mechanics like just holding a button to recover (instead of mashing), an universal dodge dash, the whole Persona thing (Which Carl, and Relius especially have on BB), short hop, and all the characters share basic functions like sweep, overhead, anti-air attacks, and reversal moves.
But again, BBCSX is probably cheaper now and chock full of content, while P4A was something new and doesn't have as much to it in its first iteration. BBCSX is the result of sequels and expansions.
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