Gotcha Force: Tier List

[Roks]

Me and the guys on the Gotcha Force Discord all grouped together to make this tier list, and we decided to post it on here to see what you all think about it! By the way, we mean no discrimination toward people's favorite borgs, the tiers are based off of how effective these borgs are in 1v1 combat. Side Note: The borgs are only put into tier categories, they aren't in order of strongest to weakest in each tier category. This tier list will most likely change over time, so it's safe to say it's a work in progress.


GF Tier List
Tiers:
X = Uber Tier Borgs (Optional)
S = Top Tier Borgs
A = High Tier Borgs
B = Mid Tier Borgs
C = Average Tier Borgs
D = Low Tier Borgs
F = Useless Tier Borgs


Notes: If Uber borgs arn't allowed, the host can decide if Combined borgs are allowed, as long as the two teammates have one of the two combined borgs. A singular teammate is not allowed to have two combined borgs in their force otherwise, unless the host decides it so.


X: G Red, Garuda, Neo G Red, Blade Wing, Proto Red, Proto Mars, Proto King, Cyber Ninja, Anubis Wing, Machine Red, Cyber Mars, Victory King, G Black, Cosmic Dragon, Blizzard Dragon

S: Death Arc, Beam Gunner, Planet Hero, Sirius, Death Saucer, Beam Tank, Flame Dragon, Plasma Dragon

A: Barrier Girl, Gatling Gunner, Gold Hero, Cyber Hero, Proto Blue, Ultimate Cannon, Saphhire Knight, Ruby Knight, Beam Samurai, Star Hero, Titan Robot, Chrono Samurai, Demon Wing, Death Wing, Antares, Space Dragon, Ice Dragon, Samurai Shogun, Victory Duke, Cyber Girl, Cyber Girl Super, Cyber Girl Hyper, Proto Eagle, Slow Valkrie, Dark Knight

B: Acceleration Ninja, Teleport Ninja, Hatchet Knight, Ghost Knight, Elemental Knight, Wire Girl, Command Girl, Sonic Samurai, Walking Bomb, Gatling Tank, Titan Tank, Victory Tank, ICBM Tank, Panther Vehicle, Death Borg Sigma II, Death ICBM, Fire Dragon, Thunder Dragon, Flame Ninja, Switching Ninja, Spike Knight, Axe Knight, Beam Wing Red, Hammar Robot, Proto Atlas, Proto Titan, Proto Panther, Victory Machine, Beam Satellite, Machine Blue, Eagle Robot, Cyber Atlas, Flying Saucer, Mechanical Dragon, Machine Dragon, Drill Robot, Orange Fighter, Blue Striker, Metal Hero, Victory Baron, Panther Robot, Imperial Knight, Megaton Robot, Beam Wing Blue, Ring Valkrie, Killer Girl, Hammar Knight, Sword Knight

C: Sasuke, Nao, Vlad, Kei, Jack, Billy, Isaac, Musashi, Shuriken Ninja, Normal Ninja, Leopard, Shijima, Double Ninja, Arrow Ninja, Revolver Gunman, Powered Gunman, Time Bomber, Remote Bomber, Normal Knight, Vampire Knight, Battle Girl, Spinner Girl, Normal Samurai, Kung-fu Master, Tao Master, Jelly Diver, Copy Man, Jet Hero, Pop Honey, Shield Witch, Wing Soldier, Quick Valkrie, Ice Valyre, Tornado Valkrie, Wind Valkrie, Claw Robot, Build Robot, Thunder Robot, Magnet Robot +, Magnet Robot -, Normal Tank, Eagle Jet, Victory Jet, Carrier Helicoptor, Violet Attacker, Death Borg Beta II, Death Borg Alpha II, Death Borg Delta II, Death Borg Zeta II, Death Borg Iota, Death Borg Lambda, Death Borg Lambda II, Death Borg Omnicron, Death Borg Omega II, Death Borg Omega III, Death Borg Omega VI, Wing Dragon, Tar Diver, Bug Witch, Angel Rescue, Isis Witch, Army Robot, Red Attacker, Sekhmet Witch, Demon Samurai, Akuma Samurai, Claw Worm, Poison Worm, Alien Worm, Venom Worm, Death Head, Phoenix Dragon, Chainsaw Knight, Death Borg Sigma

D: Angel Nurse, Patra Witch, Guard Witch, Death Borg Alpha, Death Borg Beta III, Death Borg Gamma, Death Borg Gamma II, Death Borg Gamma III, Death Borg Zeta, Death Borg Zeta III, Death Borg Zeta VI, Death Borg Theta, Death Borg Nu II, Death Borg Nu III, Death Borg Tau, Death Borg Chi, Death Borg Omega, Bastet Witch, Shadow Girl, Alien Insect, Machine Head, Death Borg Delta III

F: Death Eye, Death Borg Beta, Death Borg Delta, Death Borg Mu, Death Borg Nu, Death Bomb, Roach

[yuurei]

Slow Valkyrie should be A tier, she can stomp nearly everyone B or below (though it'll take a while) due to the combination of Flight>shot air control shenanigans + the slow debuff actually being really strong (and once one lands it's extremely difficult to prevent her from reapplying it).

Sigma 2 should also be in at least B tier (possibly even higher tbh, that extra death eye at level 10 is nuts). Pretty much every borg in that general style should be (except Wing Soldier because his shots are godawful), X-flight is kinda broken as long as you're willing to lame fights out.

Why are Panther Robot, Imperial Knight, and Chrono Samurai in A tier? Also, why is Cyber Girl in A tier but her "upgraded" versions are in B tier? Also also, why is Cosmic Dragon in X tier, i've always considered it to be below the other 3 elemental dragons of its size due to its B lasers.

Demon Samurai and Akuma Samurai should be in the same tier. They're basically the same and while Demon is slightly worse it's also slightly cheaper and neither one is particularly good at range anyway (aka they both suck at it), so Demon having a worse shot doesn't really matter. (Also, is anyone willing to test to see if Demon's ranged B gets better the more souls it collects? I have no idea if it does or not, but it's the kind of thing i wouldn't be surprised to see be true.)

Megaton Robot also could probably move up to B tier. He punishes whiffs and slow borgs in those tiers HARD.

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I just realized that this was my 1000th post on this forum. I'm finally becoming an established member now :^)

[Indigo]

May 2, 2018 1:10:38 GMT yuurei said:

Slow Valkyrie should be A tier, she can stomp nearly everyone B or below (though it'll take a while) due to the combination of Flight>shot air control shenanigans + the slow debuff actually being really strong (and once one lands it's extremely difficult to prevent her from reapplying it).

Sigma 2 should also be in at least B tier (possibly even higher tbh, that extra death eye at level 10 is nuts). Pretty much every borg in that general style should be (except Wing Soldier because his shots are godawful), X-flight is kinda broken as long as you're willing to lame fights out.

Why are Panther Robot, Imperial Knight, and Chrono Samurai in A tier? Also, why is Cyber Girl in A tier but her "upgraded" versions are in B tier? Also also, why is Cosmic Dragon in X tier, i've always considered it to be below the other 3 elemental dragons of its size due to its B lasers.

Demon Samurai and Akuma Samurai should be in the same tier. They're basically the same and while Demon is slightly worse it's also slightly cheaper and neither one is particularly good at range anyway (aka they both suck at it), so Demon having a worse shot doesn't really matter. (Also, is anyone willing to test to see if Demon's ranged B gets better the more souls it collects? I have no idea if it does or not, but it's the kind of thing i wouldn't be surprised to see be true.)

Megaton Robot also could probably move up to B tier. He punishes whiffs and slow borgs in those tiers HARD.

I'd even test the waters with Slow Valkyrie as an S rank. She's really close to broken. She just has to hit you with her slowdown once, and she pretty much wins. This is a 1vs.1 list, so there's nothing to stop her, she'll kill you slowly while you can basically do nothing, and you won't be avoiding any slow shots after the first one hits.

Beam Wing Blue and Ring Valkrie I think can move up a tier. Hammer Knight I think could pass for a B as well, though he has more abundant counters... Sword Knight is also pretty good with shield-stepping and the charge shot, but it also depends on how hard something can outrange him. Killer Girl is a bit pricey for 150 HP, but she does have some spectacular mobility, and the ability to spam super accurate shots, so I also vouch for moving her up a tier. She's like a better Command Girl, but a bit overpriced.

Oh, and Chrono Samurai is up there because this is 1vs.1. His very presence demands action. You can try to kite him out, but he's fine with letting time pass, as he's on a 'guaranteed damage' timer. But if you close, that's also his preferred territory. so he kind of punishes rushdown and laming both, and he can do both.

Not sure why Cyber Girl is in A tier, other than being lower cost, and maybe that the X attack instantly knocks down even giant borgs (or resets Dragons). She does have very good lasers, but they're a bit limited with ammo. On the other hand, I feel like the other two Cyber Girls should be in a higher rank, because they have similar lasers, on top of being able to pressure them with funnels, and even fight safely behind walls with them.

[Metal]

May 2, 2018 2:19:59 GMT Indigo said:

May 2, 2018 1:10:38 GMT yuurei said:

Slow Valkyrie should be A tier, she can stomp nearly everyone B or below (though it'll take a while) due to the combination of Flight>shot air control shenanigans + the slow debuff actually being really strong (and once one lands it's extremely difficult to prevent her from reapplying it).

Sigma 2 should also be in at least B tier (possibly even higher tbh, that extra death eye at level 10 is nuts). Pretty much every borg in that general style should be (except Wing Soldier because his shots are godawful), X-flight is kinda broken as long as you're willing to lame fights out.

Why are Panther Robot, Imperial Knight, and Chrono Samurai in A tier? Also, why is Cyber Girl in A tier but her "upgraded" versions are in B tier? Also also, why is Cosmic Dragon in X tier, i've always considered it to be below the other 3 elemental dragons of its size due to its B lasers.

Demon Samurai and Akuma Samurai should be in the same tier. They're basically the same and while Demon is slightly worse it's also slightly cheaper and neither one is particularly good at range anyway (aka they both suck at it), so Demon having a worse shot doesn't really matter. (Also, is anyone willing to test to see if Demon's ranged B gets better the more souls it collects? I have no idea if it does or not, but it's the kind of thing i wouldn't be surprised to see be true.)

Megaton Robot also could probably move up to B tier. He punishes whiffs and slow borgs in those tiers HARD.

I'd even test the waters with Slow Valkyrie as an S rank. She's really close to broken. She just has to hit you with her slowdown once, and she pretty much wins. This is a 1vs.1 list, so there's nothing to stop her, she'll kill you slowly while you can basically do nothing, and you won't be avoiding any slow shots after the first one hits.

Beam Wing Blue and Ring Valkrie I think can move up a tier. Hammer Knight I think could pass for a B as well, though he has more abundant counters... Sword Knight is also pretty good with shield-stepping and the charge shot, but it also depends on how hard something can outrange him. Killer Girl is a bit pricey for 150 HP, but she does have some spectacular mobility, and the ability to spam super accurate shots, so I also vouch for moving her up a tier. She's like a better Command Girl, but a bit overpriced.

Oh, and Chrono Samurai is up there because this is 1vs.1. His very presence demands action. You can try to kite him out, but he's fine with letting time pass, as he's on a 'guaranteed damage' timer. But if you close, that's also his preferred territory. so he kind of punishes rushdown and laming both, and he can do both.

Not sure why Cyber Girl is in A tier, other than being lower cost, and maybe that the X attack instantly knocks down even giant borgs (or resets Dragons). She does have very good lasers, but they're a bit limited with ammo. On the other hand, I feel like the other two Cyber Girls should be in a higher rank, because they have similar lasers, on top of being able to pressure them with funnels, and even fight safely behind walls with them.

This.

But uh, the problem with the funnels, is that they share an ammo pool and the recharge is fairly slow, so they lose the X attack that regular cyber girl has, for funnels that can fire a couple shots and then have to return. Honestly, Cg hyper's funnels are worthless imo, by the time you get all 4 deployed, the first one has already fired and returned. (Also she doesn't have hands... 🙃)

[Roks]

May 2, 2018 1:10:38 GMT yuurei said:

Slow Valkyrie should be A tier, she can stomp nearly everyone B or below (though it'll take a while) due to the combination of Flight>shot air control shenanigans + the slow debuff actually being really strong (and once one lands it's extremely difficult to prevent her from reapplying it).

Sigma 2 should also be in at least B tier (possibly even higher tbh, that extra death eye at level 10 is nuts). Pretty much every borg in that general style should be (except Wing Soldier because his shots are godawful), X-flight is kinda broken as long as you're willing to lame fights out.

Why are Panther Robot, Imperial Knight, and Chrono Samurai in A tier? Also, why is Cyber Girl in A tier but her "upgraded" versions are in B tier? Also also, why is Cosmic Dragon in X tier, i've always considered it to be below the other 3 elemental dragons of its size due to its B lasers.

Demon Samurai and Akuma Samurai should be in the same tier. They're basically the same and while Demon is slightly worse it's also slightly cheaper and neither one is particularly good at range anyway (aka they both suck at it), so Demon having a worse shot doesn't really matter. (Also, is anyone willing to test to see if Demon's ranged B gets better the more souls it collects? I have no idea if it does or not, but it's the kind of thing i wouldn't be surprised to see be true.)

Megaton Robot also could probably move up to B tier. He punishes whiffs and slow borgs in those tiers HARD.

May 2, 2018 2:19:59 GMT Indigo said:

May 2, 2018 1:10:38 GMT yuurei said:

Slow Valkyrie should be A tier, she can stomp nearly everyone B or below (though it'll take a while) due to the combination of Flight>shot air control shenanigans + the slow debuff actually being really strong (and once one lands it's extremely difficult to prevent her from reapplying it).

Sigma 2 should also be in at least B tier (possibly even higher tbh, that extra death eye at level 10 is nuts). Pretty much every borg in that general style should be (except Wing Soldier because his shots are godawful), X-flight is kinda broken as long as you're willing to lame fights out.

Why are Panther Robot, Imperial Knight, and Chrono Samurai in A tier? Also, why is Cyber Girl in A tier but her "upgraded" versions are in B tier? Also also, why is Cosmic Dragon in X tier, i've always considered it to be below the other 3 elemental dragons of its size due to its B lasers.

Demon Samurai and Akuma Samurai should be in the same tier. They're basically the same and while Demon is slightly worse it's also slightly cheaper and neither one is particularly good at range anyway (aka they both suck at it), so Demon having a worse shot doesn't really matter. (Also, is anyone willing to test to see if Demon's ranged B gets better the more souls it collects? I have no idea if it does or not, but it's the kind of thing i wouldn't be surprised to see be true.)

Megaton Robot also could probably move up to B tier. He punishes whiffs and slow borgs in those tiers HARD.

I'd even test the waters with Slow Valkyrie as an S rank. She's really close to broken. She just has to hit you with her slowdown once, and she pretty much wins. This is a 1vs.1 list, so there's nothing to stop her, she'll kill you slowly while you can basically do nothing, and you won't be avoiding any slow shots after the first one hits.

Beam Wing Blue and Ring Valkrie I think can move up a tier. Hammer Knight I think could pass for a B as well, though he has more abundant counters... Sword Knight is also pretty good with shield-stepping and the charge shot, but it also depends on how hard something can outrange him. Killer Girl is a bit pricey for 150 HP, but she does have some spectacular mobility, and the ability to spam super accurate shots, so I also vouch for moving her up a tier. She's like a better Command Girl, but a bit overpriced.

Oh, and Chrono Samurai is up there because this is 1vs.1. His very presence demands action. You can try to kite him out, but he's fine with letting time pass, as he's on a 'guaranteed damage' timer. But if you close, that's also his preferred territory. so he kind of punishes rushdown and laming both, and he can do both.

Not sure why Cyber Girl is in A tier, other than being lower cost, and maybe that the X attack instantly knocks down even giant borgs (or resets Dragons). She does have very good lasers, but they're a bit limited with ammo. On the other hand, I feel like the other two Cyber Girls should be in a higher rank, because they have similar lasers, on top of being able to pressure them with funnels, and even fight safely behind walls with them.

Slow Valkrie, Cyber Girl Super, Cyber Girl Hyper changed to A Tier.

Panther Robot, Imperial Knight, Megaton Robot, Beam Wing Blue, Ring Valkrie, Killer Girl, Hammar Knight, Sword Knight
are now B Tier.

Akuma Samurai is now C Tier.

Note: Sigma II is already in B Tier... I don't know why you thought he wasn't, unless you were looking at the normal Sigma which is in C Tier.

[nsn]

I want to guess this is taking cost into account, given that things like mechanical and machine dragon are in the same tier.

How is proto king higher than duke and barron? The tank and plane modes are easily worth the measly 50 GF; they make a tier's worth of a difference on other parts of the chart. Is there something about his X-attack I'm not getting?

Also, should victory king really be with the other ubers? I'm not entirely sure if he's worth twice the cost of neo G red with only 50 more health. Maybe there's more space within the uber tier than I'm imagining though--what it really comes down to is whether or not he's broken among A and below.

Still, the jetplane addition putting him a whole two tiers above duke? With how the duke and the tank are higher than the barron and the jet respectively, a jet transformation is definitely worth less than a tank one according to the list. Hell, it's seen as such a useless addition that the victory tank and machine are side by side. How can it make no difference at all there and still cause a whole two-tier gap between duke and king? How is it that you're paying 40 to add the jet to the tank for victory machine and getting no change in position, yet when you pay 150 to add it to duke you go up two whole tiers? I get that the jet addition might mean less to a tank than a machine borg, but to that degree? If I were reading the list from the bottom up, I'd really have expected king to be S at most.

EDIT:
Well since almost noone uses this forum, I'll post my own half complete list for passerby. It's got the larger machine borg, elemental dragons, and wing/angel borgs on it (and no X tier, because I'm used to just having S then SS and SSS etc, each essentially being a league of their own, unlike A through F):

SS:
NG Red, G Black, G Red

S:
P-Mars, C-Mars, P-Red, M-Red, Garuda/Anubis W

A:
Titan Robot, Blade W, BW-Red, Death W, Slow V, B Samurai, Barrier G, Blizzard D, Cosmic D
V-King, P-Eagle, P-Atlas, C-Atlas, P-Blue, M-Blue, Flame D, Plasma D

B:
V-Duke, Eagle Robot, P-Titan, BW-Blue, Ice D, Space D
V-Barron, V-Machine, Panther Robot, Demon W, Ring V, Fire D, Thunder D, DB Sigma II

C:
P-Panther, Titan Tank
P-King, V-Tank, W Soldier, Ice V, DB Lambda II

D:
V-Jet, Panther Vehicle, Wind V, Quick V, DB Sigma, D ICBM
Eagle Jet, Tornado V, ICBM Tank

E:
Misc. DB
Shadow Girl

F:
Death Eye
Roach

There's about a a margin of error of one line on here I think, though within the lines there's no order and I'm pretty confident in my S tiers. I don't think cyber ninja would make it into there; he's easy to play, but his health/cost ratio is pretty fair compared to the higher tier machine borg. And before someone asks me about baron and eagle being high despite their jet-only forms being low, it's because the jets become much more useful when you can switch in and out of them, since the jet form gets more cornering power and the machine form gets free fuel. Ergo, while a jet is usually worse than a tank, a jet transformation is about the same as tank one. I still think baron is a little worse than duke though, and wing borgs like Garuda are definitely a huge step up from any of baron or eagle's shenanigans when you consider the absurd health/cost difference and overall better moveset Garuda has. I'm going to try and go through a couple key borgs though, especially ones which either have particularly unique roles or exceptionally direct competition.

[Stove]

Surprised to see you put Sigma so low. On par with ICBM Tank? I think that's a little unfair considering it's just a slightly worse, cheaper Sigma II. Seeing Beam Samurai so high is quite the surprise too.

[nsn]

I could wiggle sigma around, but sigma II doesn't even cost twice as much despite having three times as many projectiles. I guess sigma still might be better than the worst of the valks though (though I should note that in quick valk's case I wasn't thinking purely in terms of 1v1).

Beam Samurai has some amazing matchups against important borgs and to my knowledge doesn't have anyone who can quite fill his role who isn't uber tier. You loop the vertical slash over and over again to simulate a buster juggle, except unlike a buster, you get the added benefit of being able to attack through walls like a flashlight beam. Ubers can walk all over him, but they can just as easily walk over barrier girl etc. Whats important is how easily he can kill slow valks. It's a shame he costs so much though; while his health/cost ratio is amazing (80%), I just don't feel like I'd need him out that long in a match given how his matchups can be all over the place.

Also, there's a top/bottom half to each tier, so I do think he's better than an ICBM tank. Might lower the tank actually.

[Carigun]

Just making the listings, in my eyes, a little more readable. just need to fix the alignment.

Tier X:	Tier S:	Tier A:	Tier B:
Anubis Wing Blade Wing Blizzard Dragon Cosmic Dragon Cyber Mars Cyber Ninja G Black G Red Garuda Machine Red Neo G Red Proto King Proto Mars Proto Red Victory King	Beam Gunner Beam Tank Death Arc Death Saucer Flame Dragon Planet Hero Plasma Dragon Sirius	Antares Barrier Girl Beam Samurai Chrono Samurai Cyber Girl Cyber Girl Hyper Cyber Girl Super Cyber Hero Dark Knight Death Wing Demon Wing Gatling Gunner Gold Hero Ice Dragon Proto Blue Proto Eagle Ruby Knight Samurai Shogun Saphhire Knight Slow Valkrie Space Dragon Star Hero Titan Robot Ultimate Cannon Victory Duke	Acceleration Ninja Axe Knight Beam Satellite Beam Wing Blue Beam Wing Red Blue Striker Command Girl Cyber Atlas Death Borg Sigma II Death ICBM Drill Robot Eagle Robot Elemental Knight Fire Dragon Flame Ninja Flying Saucer Gatling Tank Ghost Knight Hammar Knight Hammar Robot Hatchet Knight ICBM Tank Imperial Knight Killer Girl Machine Blue Machine Dragon Mechanical Dragon Megaton Robot Metal Hero Orange Fighter Panther Robot Panther Vehicle Proto Atlas Proto Panther Proto Titan Ring Valkrie Sonic Samurai Spike Knight Switching Ninja Sword Knight Teleport Ninja Thunder Dragon Titan Tank Victory Baron Victory Machine Victory Tank Walking Bomb Wire Girl

Tier C:	Tier D:	Tier F:
Akuma Samurai Alien Worm Angel Rescue Army Robot Arrow Ninja Battle Girl Billy Bug Witch Build Robot Carrier Helicoptor Chainsaw Knight Claw Robot Claw Worm Copy Man Death Borg Alpha II Death Borg Beta II Death Borg Delta II Death Borg Iota Death Borg Lambda Death Borg Lambda II Death Borg Omega II Death Borg Omega III Death Borg Omega VI Death Borg Omnicron Death Borg Sigma Death Borg Zeta II Death Head Demon Samurai Double Ninja Eagle Jet Ice Valyre Isaac Isis Witch Jack Jelly Diver Jet Hero Kei Kung-fu Master Leopard Magnet Robot - Magnet Robot + Musashi Nao Normal Knight Normal Ninja Normal Samurai Normal Tank Phoenix Dragon Poison Worm Pop Honey Powered Gunman Quick Valkrie Red Attacker Remote Bomber Revolver Gunman Sasuke Sekhmet Witch Shield Witch Shijima Shuriken Ninja Spinner Girl Tao Master Tar Diver Thunder Robot Time Bomber Tornado Valkrie Vampire Knight Venom Worm Victory Jet Violet Attacker Vlad Wind Valkrie Wing Dragon Wing Soldier	Alien Insect Angel Nurse Bastet Witch Death Borg Alpha Death Borg Beta III Death Borg Chi Death Borg Delta III Death Borg Gamma Death Borg Gamma II Death Borg Gamma III Death Borg Nu II Death Borg Nu III Death Borg Omega Death Borg Tau Death Borg Theta Death Borg Zeta Death Borg Zeta III Death Borg Zeta VI Guard Witch Machine Head Patra Witch Shadow Girl	Death Bomb Death Borg Beta Death Borg Delta Death Borg Mu Death Borg Nu Death Eye Roach

[Carigun]

Cant seem to align the table.

point I am wanting to make is regarding dropping 2 borgs down one due to them having a bigger brother in the same tier

Poison Worm / Venom Worm
Claw Worm / Alien Worm

basically I am suggesting dropping Poison and Claw down one as the bigger brother of the respective borgs, in my opinion don't have enough to be at a higher tier but shouldn't be on same tier as their little brothers.