"How do I even use this thing?"

[Death Eye]

Ask your fellow people how to make a Borg more useful than Roach Bombs here.

Example:
How are you supposed to get back to ground level with Divers when they fall like helium balloons with parachutes?

[Indigo]

Find a magnet robot?

[VerdantShade]

To be quite honest, why would you want a diver on the ground level again? They don't even walk. . . 

Regardless, getting down is as much a process of falling as it is not going upwards in the first place - Divers are not agile when it comes to Y-axis movement, but they are fast enough on the X- and Z- axes, and they don't have an urgent need to be fast when they can suspend an enemies's projectiles in midair anyways. 

Basically, you need to plan your vertical movements ahead of time. If you really want to stay grounded, try to find a low ceiling such as the mail box near safari street, IIRC. Unfortunately, mailboxes are in short supply, as are ceilings. 

Alternate methods which come to mind are, say, having a buddy Z-target you with his magnet robot - or let the enemy magnet robot pull you in while you Knuckle his face in as a Knuckle borg, that works too. If your ally is an air borg. . . well, yes, he could pull you in with the Z-Target vacuum, but you could pull him to a halt, and he may not benefit nearly as well from the slowdown as you do. Some of the more "pushy" borgs, such as large fortresses and dragons, could be used as miniature ceilings, or if you can catch them when they're falling. Finally, a wire gunner could get you with his wire shot and pull you in. Attack Helicopter could grab you and then just land, Arrow Ninja could stick you to the ground in the first place. . . etc.

[Frozazen]

I agree with VerdantShade. The divers shouldn't jump higher than is needed to airdash along the ground. Since they slow down so much while trying to fall and reset, a diver player should glide along the ground, using their jelly scope to slow down projectiles while closing in on the opponent to close range them. The only reason you should be jumping would be if you were going up against a fortress borg.

Question: Suppose you are a tar diver, and your opponent is a Panther robot. If only the legs of the panther robot are engulfed by your tar scope, would the panther robot still feel the effects of the tar scope? Specifically, movement speed, attack charge speed, and projectile speed.

I love the concept of tar diver, and he'd make an interesting team partner if you were going up against, say, Sirius or Blizzard Dragon (assuming he does slow them down completely).

[Carigun]

well a soultion is to get hit buy the Beam Gunners Mega Cannon shot as youd end up on the floor.
however Beam Gunner would tear it appart so thats out.

Flame, Plasma and Ice Dragons elemetal bombs would help.
however Dragon V Diver will only have one outcome

Normal Ninjas bombs is a logical soultion. as Normal Ninja V Diver is a proper fight

[Metal]

Oct 8, 2013 21:19:56 GMT Carigun said:

well a soultion is to get hit buy the Beam Gunners Mega Cannon shot as youd end up on the floor.
however Beam Gunner would tear it appart so thats out.

Flame, Plasma and Ice Dragons elemetal bombs would help.
however Dragon V Diver will only have one outcome

Normal Ninjas bombs is a logical soultion. as Normal Ninja V Diver is a proper fight

I feel you underestimate the normal ninja. XP

I say dash at a groundward angle.

[dillybar64]

How do I make Titan Robot stand out?
He so easily falls into the shadows of the other transforming machine borgs.
He feels like a stiffer version of Panther Robot specifically and I can't figure out what's special about him.

[Deleted]

Feb 23, 2014 21:21:40 GMT dillybar64 said:

How do I make Titan Robot stand out?

Infinite laser beams.
1. Be tank form
2. Fire all of the lasers
3. tap transform twice, can do it while dashing / use the transforming animation to dodge
4. more lasers
5. repeat

Also the lances are AMAZING against large borgs, borgs that fire physics-enabled projectiles (drills, bombs, even axes from knights and garuda-variants), shield-users and all sorts of stuff.

[Deleted]

Here's a good one: Phoenix Dragon.
It seems pretty useless, due to the constant movement lag.

EDIT: Alright. I analysed it a bit.
First of all, it has 15 dual-lasers.
I haven't tested the damage yet, but 15 lasers is pretty impressive regardless.

Its charge attack moves quite fast and can do insane amounts of damage.
However, due to the crazy amount of lag before and after the attack, it's pretty hard to hit with.
It can, however, be used for mobility, dodging, or defence.

The flight on this thing is awkward, and the main reason I thought it was useless.
Once you run out of flight, you can't fly again until the ground. This leaves you wide-open for attack.
What you need to do is stay close to the ground while using it. This allows you to recharge your flight meter much faster.
Press X, and right before the dragon starts to fly upward, press A, then X quickly.
This will cancel your flight and you will stay closer to the ground, and all the safer for it.

However, you don't auto aim while using the flight, so you can't exactly run around spamming lasers like you can with, say, Command Girl.
You have to stop first, or rush straight toward your opponent.

Overall, it's not a borg I would want on very many forces, but it's better than I thought it was.

EDIT EDIT:
I compared its damage to Cyber Ninja's laser.
...
I don't know what they were smoking when they 'balanced' that THING, and I'm not sure I want to know.
what the h***!? Cyber Ninja's laser attack does more than a dragon that costs 140 more and can't even move around freely!?
AND it recharges fast as hell. Cyber Ninja moves almost as fast, if not faster than Acceleration Ninja's X attack!


THIS

IS
NOT
FAIR

EDIT 3X COMBO:
That was censored...?

[dillybar64]

Jun 17, 2014 22:37:06 GMT @aspect said:

Feb 23, 2014 21:21:40 GMT dillybar64 said:

How do I make Titan Robot stand out?

Infinite laser beams.
1. Be tank form
2. Fire all of the lasers
3. tap transform twice, can do it while dashing / use the transforming animation to dodge
4. more lasers
5. repeat

Also the lances are AMAZING against large borgs, borgs that fire physics-enabled projectiles (drills, bombs, even axes from knights and garuda-variants), shield-users and all sorts of stuff.

Truth, but I get better results using this tactic with Panther Robot.
Titan Robot just feels like a less fortunate version of him.

[goldwolfredux]

Is there any use for Shadow Girl besides a paperweight? At all?

[Stove]

Dec 18, 2015 9:30:22 GMT goldwolfredux said:

Is there any use for Shadow Girl besides a paperweight? At all?

Her teleport slash fills the special gauge extremely quickly. Death Eye has gotten extremely good at using her. She's still really bad though.

[goldwolfredux]

Dec 18, 2015 15:16:58 GMT Stove said:

Dec 18, 2015 9:30:22 GMT goldwolfredux said:

Is there any use for Shadow Girl besides a paperweight? At all?

Her teleport slash fills the special gauge extremely quickly. Death Eye has gotten extremely good at using her. She's still really bad though.

So a more Expensive Death Borg Alpha II, without any range. All respect to Death Eye for making it work, but I'll pass.

[dillybar64]

Dec 18, 2015 9:30:22 GMT goldwolfredux said:

Is there any use for Shadow Girl besides a paperweight? At all?

She's a blonde in a loincloth, what's not to like?
I kid, I kid.
Seriously though. Unless you're Death Eye and wanna treat this really limited unit as a really techy unit instead, she's basically forgotten and a girl living in Killer Girl's... shadow.

[goldwolfredux]

Dec 18, 2015 21:42:29 GMT dillybar64 said:

Dec 18, 2015 9:30:22 GMT goldwolfredux said:

Is there any use for Shadow Girl besides a paperweight? At all?

She's a blonde in a loincloth, what's not to like?
I kid, I kid.
Seriously though. Unless you're Death Eye and wanna treat this really limited unit as a really techy unit instead, she's basically forgotten and a girl living in Killer Girl's... shadow.

Honestly if I wanted to spend much time working on being good with a well-designed(visually) teleporting ninja outcast from their tribe, it would be Teleprot Ninja.(Misspelling intentional.) And I am gonna do that anyhow!