bleh!

[Metal]

Id be fine with any plot twists as long as enigma is not the princess of blood.

I meant to control the mobs and stuff XD. if i did one itd be after season 2 though, and perhaps people were being kidnapped and held for ransom while playing alo or something? Idk i really like the series though, i want to read the manga as it has two additional stories, but as i havent had a chance yet my knowledge only extends to where the anime ends.

[Deleted]

Yeah you could probably create literally any sort of MMO landscape in the world of SAO. I know that the next MMO they go to after Alfheim is a place called gungale which is all futuristic and gun oritentated, then Kirito gets trapped in the 'underworld' which basically just says 'screw it, I can't stand writing the real world stuff' and has it so that they can't log out and time goes much faster while inside the game, like in Accel world.

Anyway I'll continue to wait for more insight.
Also Dilly, want to help out with this or something else that interests you if your interested?

[Indigo]

I don't have much to add at the moment... Although I'm not quite sure how a death thriller RP will work if our RP base is a little limited. I mean, if the games generally have the cost of a life, does that just mean we'll have multiple characters and have to be prepared to let them die?

But with Metal going on about SAO (and I know Al is pretty big on this virtual reality thing), I'll throw out the idea that maybe we can keep all these concepts/ideas thus far, but move it to a virtual reality setting, which I think allows much more room for games and devices/energy required to stay alive, and also not worrying about the general public. The enemies/the-hunted could be hostile viruses or data of sorts nicknamed ghosts or whatever which give off data needed to stay alive... Or however it'll work, as that's probably too Madoka Magicy.

Well, actually... I'll also add that I'm more of a fan of stories that have a more global-scale plot, and also with sub-plots. Generally, (post) apocalyptic settings, where humanity bands to defeat a great problem, or just have a lifestyle accustomed to dealing with it daily. But the world still isn't at peace (or completely united), so there are internal conflicts as well between groups of people.

Lastly though, I do enjoy the concept of paranormal entities plaguing the Earth/world, and humanity developing countermeasures and utilizing them by using the threats themselves. I've mentioned it before, God Eater is one of my favorite games, and it's based on the concept of an invasion of demon-like lifeforms (Aragami), and humanity used their 'technology' to develop God Arcs. These are basically large bracelets permanently implanted, which grant Aragami-like abilities by injecting their cells into one's own body. Basically superhuman skills, and god eaters are capable of using large weapons that are the only thing that can hurt Aragami. They also can 'devour' with their weapons, which essentially steals cells for one's own use to boost physical power and even shoot Aragami with their own attacks. But also, overdoing one's body or being overtaken by enemies can lead to becoming an Aragami itself that comrades will have to deal with. And lastly, evolution is a strong point, as the Aragami are highly prone to developing physically and mentally, even becoming immune to previous methods of attack.

I don't really know why I just explained all this. I was basically just going off of the fact that I like the idea of fighting outside forces and utilizing their 'technology.' Apparently I had way much more to say than I originally planned, and hopefully some more ideas can form with it.

+: Oh, just to throw out another idea that's probably more relevant... If the plot was on a larger scale, what about maybe different companies or groups, kinda like Enigma, but are kinda different somehow so they end up in conflict with each other?

[Metal]

May 20, 2013 19:49:22 GMT @alberenza said:

Yeah you could probably create literally any sort of MMO landscape in the world of SAO. I know that the next MMO they go to after Alfheim is a place called gungale which is all futuristic and gun oritentated, then Kirito gets trapped in the 'underworld' which basically just says 'screw it, I can't stand writing the real world stuff' and has it so that they can't log out and time goes much faster while inside the game, like in Accel world.

Anyway I'll continue to wait for more insight.
Also Dilly, want to help out with this or something else that interests you if your interested?

Isnt underworld like a govt experiment on a closed server? And kirito goes in to save someone who isnt asuna or something? Haha though i havent read it, im almost positive that kiritos gungale avatar is rather feminine.

Also clax idk if itd work on a server, ghost in the machine type thing, i feel like itd be too much like baldur force exe.

Dilly, i suppose we are conceptualizing an rp for multiple parties, so feel free to post things
That do pique your interest.

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... goddamn it my twist was genuinely spoiled.
Ok maybe that was a form of possibility. It was definitely going to be a form of artificial space, that much was for certain.

I'll come clean and say that I had actually been planning something rather different for a while now using the characters of Enigma and the Princess of blood. Instead of being a game in a paranormal setting, it would instead have Enigma sending out our characters to save the world from alien invaders who had actually taken up residence inside a giant flower growing directly outside of the sun, causing poisonous 'blood roses' to grow all across the earth.
What is holding me back from the idea in terms of an RP is that while I adore the idea of multiple organizations duking it out, I fear that it may be too large a scale for the comparatively small RPer base we have here. The idea of the game would be that it would have a similar sort of political struggles and such, but done on a much smaller scale and using pieces rahter than characters. I also really loved the idea of ghosts, and I didn't necessarily want to shoot down all the ideas.
On top of that, I really suck at middles so I had the bones with no meat, so to speak.

In terms of post apocalypse, my idea was that but I really love the idea of toying with the post apocalypse.
Dangan Ronpa for instance plays with the idea of the world inside having actually already been taken over by Monobear. We never actually see it, even at the very end so for all we know he could have just been lying. I love the idea of a gruesome game taking place in an isolated space where you have no idea what current events outside are like, and having to take a gamble on weather or not its worth it to escape to a living hell, or stay in a comparatively sterile environment.
Imagine if in fallout 3 you had the option on weather or not to leave the vault, for example, and you didn't know that the world outside was still suffering the after effects of a nuclear world war.
I didn't actually have this in mind for my most recent idea.

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Why was this topic suddenly forgotten for no reason? I know it hasn't been long but I thought we were on the verge of a breakthrough.

[Indigo]

I'm still around and interested. I'm just not entirely sure what direction we're going here. But one thing I can bring up us Eden of the East. It was a pretty interesting game anime, though I don't entirely remember it now. It was based on a select group of people who were given an absurd amount of money, and are just told to 'save Japan.' Repeated use of money for personal gain will lead to their death, as well as running out of money. They also have phones with a sort of AI system that can carry out practically any order for prices, and every selected person also has access to a log of every action anyone does with their money.

Basically, I think this more 'sandbox' nature works better for an RP, rather than guiding or forcing players into positions against each other. A vague yet ambiguous goal, and any way to go about it within given power.

Now we could translate something like that with our current ideas. So Enigma could be similar as to what you mentioned, someone who granted a group power to save the Earth from the spirits/aliens from near the blood roses.

But there has to be catches to it. Like first of all, having no real idea as to how to stop the entire invasion. Even with the given power, you'd still be just one fighter. And other catches, like having to maintain spirit energy somehow, or it decreases from a massive pool that will inevitably run out eventually. Maybe the Princess of Blood can come into play as some force in between that can compromise rewards for tasks that will possibly threaten other fighters. Maybe she'd even be the key to finding out how to stop the invasion, but of course, she seeks her own favors that generally aren't pretty. Or just something fighters can gain from each other through betrayal or ploys without such a manipulative figure.

Overall, it could be a story originally of 'heroes of justice,' and slowly they realize they might have to betray each other to effectively gain enough power or knowledge to fight the increasing invasion. Or is cooperation still the key? I think it's also one way to go about the 'questioning morals' stuff mentioned earlier. A group of heroes, anti-heroes of justice, or even villains? To what extent could justice be taken or abused toss be the world?

Alternatively, we can go the mech route. Fighting as a squad, or gunning down your ally to take their core mech parts to equip and boost your own to try and create a deus machina. I feel like I should say this is a joke because someone always takes me seriously. Although something like smaller mechs built and powered with some spirit technology doesn't sound so bad. Like everything I mentioned in the paragraphs before this in the form of heroes of justice(?) in slightly demonic/spirit/alien mech knights. But again, you might want to just disregard this paragraph.

[Metal]

May 21, 2013 8:54:21 GMT Indigo said:

I'm still around and interested. I'm just not entirely sure what direction we're going here. But one thing I can bring up us Eden of the East. It was a pretty interesting game anime, though I don't entirely remember it now. It was based on a select group of people who were given an absurd amount of money, and are just told to 'save Japan.' Repeated use of money for personal gain will lead to their death, as well as running out of money. They also have phones with a sort of AI system that can carry out practically any order for prices, and every selected person also has access to a log of every action anyone does with their money.

Basically, I think this more 'sandbox' nature works better for an RP, rather than guiding or forcing players into positions against each other. A vague yet ambiguous goal, and any way to go about it within given power.

Now we could translate something like that with our current ideas. So Enigma could be similar as to what you mentioned, someone who granted a group power to save the Earth from the spirits/aliens from near the blood roses.

But there has to be catches to it. Like first of all, having no real idea as to how to stop the entire invasion. Even with the given power, you'd still be just one fighter. And other catches, like having to maintain spirit energy somehow, or it decreases from a massive pool that will inevitably run out eventually. Maybe the Princess of Blood can come into play as some force in between that can compromise rewards for tasks that will possibly threaten other fighters. Maybe she'd even be the key to finding out how to stop the invasion, but of course, she seeks her own favors that generally aren't pretty. Or just something fighters can gain from each other through betrayal or ploys without such a manipulative figure.

Overall, it could be a story originally of 'heroes of justice,' and slowly they realize they might have to betray each other to effectively gain enough power or knowledge to fight the increasing invasion. Or is cooperation still the key? I think it's also one way to go about the 'questioning morals' stuff mentioned earlier. A group of heroes, anti-heroes of justice, or even villains? To what extent could justice be taken or abused toss be the world?

Alternatively, we can go the mech route. Fighting as a squad, or gunning down your ally to take their core mech parts to equip and boost your own to try and create a deus machina. I feel like I should say this is a joke because someone always takes me seriously. Although something like smaller mechs built and powered with some spirit technology doesn't sound so bad. Like everything I mentioned in the paragraphs before this in the form of heroes of justice(?) in slightly demonic/spirit/alien mech knights. But again, you might want to just disregard this paragraph.

The first idea doesnt sound too bad, since mc is back i say we dont do anything with mecha. I like the sandbox thing, and no where did you specificy that we couldnt work together at our own discression.

[Deleted]

Before reading Claxus' recent post I had the idea of a 'gathering' portion before the actual game but now I'm starting to think that perhaps such a streamlined approach isn't necessarily necessary.
My initial idea was to have Enigma tell them to 'save the world' somehow but that the princess of blood would make it obvious.
If we make gaining resources our top priority, betrayals and alliances will follow quickly.
The resources would of course be spirits. Kill a spirit to gain some necessary energy, with it being key to saving the world.

I can change things at a later date so perhaps I should start writing a comprehensive sign up...
A small idea I also had was to place character specific restrictions on certain characters such as Asimov's 3 laws.
Yes or no? I predict no and I'm thinking no at this point, but I thought it safe to ask anyway.

EDIT: All done and I can edit some of the rule set any time really, but I think I'll still wait for confirmation before posting the thread because I'm paranoid like that, and I'm starting to see possible problems and annoying parallels to other works. Then again, I don't think something like this has been attempted on the site before...

EDIT THE SECOND: Decided to go ahead anyway because I think criticism can be more easily given when you have a complete proposal in front of you. I recommend we continue the discussion over in that thread.

[Indigo]

Before moving on from this topic, I'd just like to say that near the end of my last post, which was all typed up on my phone, had a typo in it that translated... Very oddly. "toss be the world." Not sure exactly how I mistyped that which was supposed to be 'to save the world', but my phone deemed it necessary to fix it as 'toss be the world.'

[Deleted]

Mmm... I obviously didn't do something right. This certainly isn't going to revive the RP section. In fact I probably did a s*** ton wrong... ughaghaduaiudhi maybe I'll just dust of that visual novel software or something... badger people into making a persona RP or whatever...

[Metal]

May 22, 2013 23:01:46 GMT @alberenza said:

Mmm... I obviously didn't do something right. This certainly isn't going to revive the RP section. In fact I probably did a s*** ton wrong... ughaghaduaiudhi maybe I'll just dust of that visual novel software or something... badger people into making a persona RP or whatever...

I havent signed up because im having a rather bleh! Week right now

[Indigo]

Nothing wrong with the RP, although I do think you took charge a bit too quick for what we were aiming for. Nonetheless, it's a good RP and I'm joining. I was working on the OC earlier and power went out, but I intend to finish it a little later today. Mostly just hung up on the name. I'm super finicky about making good original names and last names.