bleh!

[Metal]

ive been feeling rather bleh about the current state of the forum. im not interested in any of the new rps, the other gotcha stuff is sometimes interesting and the other times is a bore (no offense)i post a couple stories and dont get the feedback i wanted,(no worries) and i feel like the only thing ive posted in for the past two weeks is the religion and spam threads. maybe like one or two others but it was a sporadic thing. im rather upset because i dont want to log in just to check the spam thread then log out, as i rather enjoy spending time on gff, but lately it seems it has become a chore for me. i am debating taking a brief leave tho i am unsure. i wonder if i feel this way because of things going on irl or if i have just become disillusioned with the net. i suppose time will tell. anyways i guess the overall point of this thread is a heads up if i disappear for a bit.

[dillybar64]

May 14, 2013 6:19:49 GMT Metal said:

ive been feeling rather bleh about the current state of the forum.

State of the forum? Please elaborate.

May 14, 2013 6:19:49 GMT Metal said:

lately it seems it has become a chore for me. i am debating taking a brief leave tho i am unsure.

I encourage this break. Otherwise you may end up approaching GFF like it is some kind of obligation and then all the fun goes right out the window.

May 14, 2013 6:19:49 GMT Metal said:

i wonder if i feel this way because of things going on irl

Oh? What's been going on?

[Deleted]

It takes me about a second to check everything. Do you log in permanently or do you sign on manually each time you enter the site? Definitely don't do the later, otherwise yeah it feels like a chore. I just visit for a few seconds then immediately do something else. I'm just blessed with a short attention span I suppose. And in light of that I really wonder why some people have a hard time just visiting...

RP section is really, really awful right now. I don't think I've been excited about that place for months, maybe even about a year. I try my best but it requires a very strong commitment on everyone's part, and waiting for others and trying to generate fresh content to work through is difficult. I honestly think that people need to be forming their own stories in there using their characters rather than solving linear problems set out by a dungeon master. Combined with a tired idea pool that place is just a breeding ground for apathy and disinterest.
Some kind of visionary needs to go there and remind us what it was that made RPs fun. I honestly thought that point count was going to help with that, but so many rules and the idea behind it is really better suited to a completely different medium... like an MMO or something which I obviously cannot do Agh! Its all so difficult. We need to re-evaluate that place, take a break and start doing some introspection.
Off the top of my head, the RP section needs...
- A strong setting and opening which draws people in.
- A story suited to RPing. (My attempts at murder mystery for example will NEVER work.)
- A story generated by the people participating, not wholly the dungeon master.
- People wiling to interact. Interactions make these things, we can't just wait until we're shoved together.
- A dedicated dungeon master, and a dedicated group of RPers.
- A story which continue to exist without certain RPers, and will still make sense when they return.

Any other thoughts? I think the RP section is the only thing 'wrong' with the site right now, a pretty major 'wrong' since most of our regulars are very fond of RPs.

[Metal]

May 19, 2013 21:46:38 GMT dillybar64 said:

May 14, 2013 6:19:49 GMT Metal said:

ive been feeling rather bleh about the current state of the forum.

State of the forum? Please elaborate.

May 14, 2013 6:19:49 GMT Metal said:

lately it seems it has become a chore for me. i am debating taking a brief leave tho i am unsure.

I encourage this break. Otherwise you may end up approaching GFF like it is some kind of obligation and then all the fun goes right out the window.

May 14, 2013 6:19:49 GMT Metal said:

i wonder if i feel this way because of things going on irl

Oh? What's been going on?

For a week there the activity lulled, which is understandable, as people have lives lol.

I still may take a break, im kind of talking to this girl, and i feel as though i am moving through it at a snails pace (im generally not found of the talking phase. But im trying my hardest to take things slow, and such like. Waiting on an acceptance letter from school to come so i can enroll, and volunteering to volunteer at said girls church,(i used to be a member but the pastor changed and the guy the denomination brought in was a mega jerk, and said things i didnt agree with so i quit going there.) And working forty hours a week in a job im not overly passionate about, its been rather well not stressful, but full nonetheless lately hahaha, gff is kind of a digital get away, i can just not worry about my irl probs for like 5-10 min, and logging (actually al, i only log in when the auto timer logs me out, usually i just leave my account on) in to see the site "dead" was kind of bumming me out.

I agree on the rp section, it needs an overhaul, (rp mod we need ur halp!!!) (Spacejam reference ftw!) Cause other than babel, im kind of done with it, and mc masta has been gone for like a month? So that has lulled too.


Bleh!!!!!!

[Indigo]

- A strong setting and opening which draws people in. Project Solar Giant
- A story suited to RPing. Project Solar Giant
- A story generated by the people participating, not wholly the dungeon master. Project Solar Giant
- People wiling to interact. Project Solar Giant
- A dedicated dungeon master, and a dedicated group of RPers. Project Solar Giant
- A story which continue to exist without certain RPers. Maybe Project Solar Giant

[Stove]

May 20, 2013 1:32:52 GMT Indigo said:

- A strong setting and opening which draws people in. Project Solar Giant
- A story suited to RPing. Project Solar Giant
- A story generated by the people participating, not wholly the dungeon master. Project Solar Giant
- People wiling to interact. Project Solar Giant
- A dedicated dungeon master, and a dedicated group of RPers. Project Solar Giant
- A story which continue to exist without certain RPers. Maybe Project Solar Giant

Well somebody sure is biased.
I liked that rp, but I think that Regal wanted to use it too much as an opportunity to ship, and it just lost its "luster."
Of course, that could very well be because Al lost interest.

I'll be honest, I'm very annoyed with the state of the rp section. Nothing right now interests me, and I have no idea why I'm still messing around with it.
I want to make a good story, but I usually lack the determination to make something big. I used to have that determination, but I sucked at rp'ing back then. It sickens me to read some of the old things I've written. There are so many things I'd like to be able to scrap of my works, but I'm too embarrassed to ask a mod to edit it out, not to mention that would be tedious for them. I mean, Al has brought up a CERTAIN project multiple times that I despise. I don't know what twisted corner of my mind drove me to make that, but I wish I could just get rid of it. I wish I could get somebody else's help for writing up a great rp...but frankly (and I've been wanting to mention this for awhile) I'm not happy with my fellow writers.

I mean, I'll be honest here.
Al has no drive whatsoever anymore.
Riku just reboots the same ones over and over, and it's usually the rps I see absolutely no potential in. I do this sometimes too, but after watching GFA getting rebooted 5 times, frankly I got tired of it. I stopped trying to reboot aNT after 3.
metal, you just derp around a lot. You're fine, but you just do rediculous things. (recent posts in Babel, for example.)
Tat is the embodiment of everything I despise about the anime lovers of the internet. A love for felines to the point to where I would call it a fetish, overuse of "moe" characters, and an annoying tendency to say something that makes no sense, but I cannot find a way to argue with that makes sense.
Austin I'm fine with, except for the fact that he has VANISHED.
Alphonse is the same as Austin.
Same thing with Kazu. (never got around to starting that fire emblem rp.)
Regal's characters are always exactly the same. He writes it well, but they never are at all different. I feel I suffer from this sometimes as well, that's why I try to deviate from overusing a certain "character stereotype."
Bradao is fun to write with, except for the fact that he always seems to lose interest in his stories by page 5. The only story I know if his that really lasted was his Digimon one.
I'm sure there's someone I'm missing, and I'm sure there's something I hate about them too. Let's just say I'm angry at myself and them because the rp section is dying for the first time in two years.

You know, I'd be content if I had a group of people who cared, who poured their heart and soul into their writing. If I could find a group of people like that, I'm sure I'd be able to find that drive. But what's the point in trying when you've got nobody to support you? If you try to make a rp with just one determined person, you might as well make it a solo story!

[Indigo]

Kinda biased, yeah, and not that I have much experience with RPs here, but I thought it was a good run until Al lost interest, and did fit those criteria.

Actually, I don't join most RPs because from what I've seen, they're generally not much of a group effort. I mean, really, I see all these RPs that keep coming up, and it just feels like the whole section is so detached... But I feel like what we need is just two or three big ones that all of us would be into, made with a lot of our ideas rather than one mastermind making the setting and story.

I think me and Austin were on the right track, we were discussing the mech RP he had planned pretty in depth, the setting and story and overall balancing out a story. We were talking about it through PMs even after his topic became inactive, but suddenly he's just disappeared...

But yeah, I think ultimately we just need people who care, or an RP that everyone cares about, starting with a discussion leading to its creation. At least, I'd be willing to be part of the support for the drive for anyone who's determined. And it doesn't have to be mechs, although preferable.

[Metal]

I just derp around because i have been on a derp character binge since som. Good times that, ive thought about rebooting it, to like where we started fighting balthazar, but i feel it had become clustered at that point. And itd be better to just start over. But i also dont want to rehash all that plot lol. As i said in my above post, im pretty busy irl, and in addition to all that im thinking of taking up golf, so i have rarely any time to concept rps. Mostly because my best friend and i are planning a comic "company" so we are trying to concept comic ideas. And i have to sleep at some point XD

[Deleted]

Project solar giant was anything but self sustaining. The only times when free will was ever in it was when it was inconvenient (already a major flaw right there) or between scenes where it was all about the shipping.

Anyway what gives people a drive? I could come up with as many ideas as I want but that wouldn't solve this problem. I usually put my heart and soul into the conception and even the start of RPs but my main problem with story telling is that I usually have a strong idea, a strong opening, and a strong ending planned but NO worthwhile content for the middle. My usual thoughts are that RPs can solve that.

So lets see here...
I don't have a strong preference but I think I'm into the sort of dark fantasy type thing set in a stylized real life, you know like persona and dangan ronpa. I'd also love murder mysteries and such, but I just don't think that they work for RPs very well. Maybe if I tried right from the outset... Mmm... I still doubt it. Mostly though, I'm just easy. I do really want to get a plot off of the ground which doesn't necessarily wholly involve fighting though. My last great success was probably Worldmancer, so it appears fighting tournaments work... but then again, we've obviously already done fighting tournament.

I could probably make fairly accurate guesses with you guys, but what kind of elements do you like to see in stories?
I mean, we could all just find one game and anime that we all like and call it a day, but I don't think there is one of those that we haven't already tried and I want to be original.
Basically I just want to hear it from your own mouths.

Oh, also I should mention that I put 'That' in the cemetery and locked it. In 1000 years it's soul will rise and the earth will be covered in a blanket of darkness, from which no hope will ever escape.

[Stove]

May 20, 2013 5:25:02 GMT Indigo said:

Kinda biased, yeah, and not that I have much experience with RPs here, but I thought it was a good run until Al lost interest, and did fit those criteria.

Actually, I don't join most RPs because from what I've seen, they're generally not much of a group effort. I mean, really, I see all these RPs that keep coming up, and it just feels like the whole section is so detached... But I feel like what we need is just two or three big ones that all of us would be into, made with a lot of our ideas rather than one mastermind making the setting and story.

I think me and Austin were on the right track, we were discussing the mech RP he had planned pretty in depth, the setting and story and overall balancing out a story. We were talking about it through PMs even after his topic became inactive, but suddenly he's just disappeared...

But yeah, I think ultimately we just need people who care, or an RP that everyone cares about, starting with a discussion leading to its creation. At least, I'd be willing to be part of the support for the drive for anyone who's determined. And it doesn't have to be mechs, although preferable.

I'm not a fan of mechs, but I'm determined to do this, mechs or not. Personally I want to do a sort of paranormal sort of rp, kinda...ghostbusters-ish, I guess?
However, I'm open to any ideas, and I may try to expand on that one.

Also metal, if you do decide to reboot that, start from the beginning. You start with balthazar and that rp is still just one huge shipfest.

May 14, 2013 6:19:49 GMT Metal said:

(no offense)

None comprehended!

(I love Tick references. )

May 20, 2013 7:11:07 GMT @alberenza said:

Oh, also I should mention that I put 'That' in the cemetery and locked it. In 1000 years it's soul will rise and the earth will be covered in a blanket of darkness, from which no hope will ever escape.

THANK YOU SO MUCH AL.
Though I suppose you wouldn't be too proud of that either, eh?

Nice TTYD reference too.

[Deleted]

Ghost buster aesthetic ties in with my own.
I see...
Characters...
hidden organizations... shadow operatives?
NO! BAD AL! ORIGINAL IDEAS!
Ok well something LIKE shadow operatives...
As part of a mysterious serial killing plot which is more than it lets on!
Perhaps similar to persona 4 but more secret agent, more dark, and less focused on killing shadows as it is down to internal political struggles within the organization...
I don't know, I'll think on it throughout the day but I got to go now.

[Stove]

May 20, 2013 7:21:14 GMT @alberenza said:

Ghost buster aesthetic ties in with my own.
I see...
Characters...
hidden organizations... shadow operatives?
NO! BAD AL! ORIGINAL IDEAS!
Ok well something LIKE shadow operatives...
As part of a mysterious serial killing plot which is more than it lets on!
Perhaps similar to persona 4 but more secret agent, more dark, and less focused on killing shadows as it is down to internal political struggles within the organization...
I don't know, I'll think on it throughout the day but I got to go now.

Still seems too much Persona, but it can be built off of. I was personally looking into a plot along the lines of a world where dark spirits run rampant and ghost hunters are revered and loved. Ghost hunters form teams, and while some do it for glory, others do it to ease other's burden.
Oh, Oh! And maybe the spirits' spectral energy is used like a sort of alternate energy source which is the best way to power the main components of their ghost catching equipment, so they have to stay consistent or have weaker equipment!
And to add on to that, have spirits later on able to talk about their past life, having no control over their actions after, making it a tough descision for the team after they realize they're "ending" things that were once people, questioning morality, etc.

Also I made way too many edits to that last post.

[Indigo]

touhou.wikia.com/wiki/Youkai

Actually, I'm not too fond of ghosts... I mean, I just can't take them seriously. The idea of ghosts is just so goofy. But first of all... That's basically the foundation of a 'PvE' RP. It can work and all, but the problem is the conflict is always against a 'remote controlled' enemy by a game master of sorts.

And nothing wrong with that, but I think we're aiming for some of the factors Al pointed out, like a story highly driven by the characters, and not just a plot laid down by a master. Of course, the concept can still work with changes.

Pointing back to Project Solar Giant... I thought it was great how well we sustained the RP with all the characters, with just a few story pointers from Al. And that's the sort if thing I'd like to see again. And I love groups/teams of hunters fighting against otherworldly threats, but I dunno if it translates very well into an RP given how the enemies are kinda just expendable OCs directly related to the plot and requiring control. But again, it can still work, by bringing infighting to the table, or some other issue that creates problems between RPers, even as they hunt youkais. Or ghosts. Like a group of Claxes/Claxii fights in mechs (destroying the ghosts and anything in the way while yelling out 'justice'), but a group of Steves uses special spirit weapons that devour/absorb the ghosts' uncontrollable 'dark heart' and lifts their spirit to rest in peace. Of course, the Steves do not like this and develop a form of spirit power capable of combating mechs. And so the Claxes/Claxii and the Steves battle amongst each other, yet while fighting for a similar cause.

It's 5:30am and I can't sleep. Well, I think I can now... Also, kinda funny how this topic turned out.

[Metal]

Id say we are still on topic lol. If i do decide to reboot startin from the begin indeed. But im going to change certain things aboot it. Like including balthazar from the start, and having godfreed die gruesomely, and maybe like magic armor or something? Idk but changes.

Also, i kind of want to do a 1) boktai and 2) sword art online. Rps.

[Deleted]

Riku tried a SAO RP but it didn't work out very well. Try it if you want but I think we're on to something here.

I thought I was restricting you guys too much with PSG. I remember when M.C said he didn't want to participate in the tournament, thinking what a pain it will be to keep M.C relevant when I hadn't accounted for anything else but the tournament.

My idea has usually been to have a GM layout the ground rules for a game which automatically pits the players against each other.
Because I don't want to use another Dangan Ronpa analogy, I'll instead say that in virtues last reward the characters are forced to play the prisoner's dilemma in order to escape the facility, forced by the villain.

I was hoping of aiming for a similar kind of ally/betrayal thing for a while before this RP started, like perhaps a short campaign of sorts where one player is secretly told that they have to betray the others.

Paying attention to Steve, I will say that I like that idea. But it also highlights a problem with the RP section- as a group, we're not exactly seeing eye to eye to each other in terms of ideas right now.

Well I have a pitch.

An organization of people work for a man named Enigma, who contacts them over phone, and their secret organization deals with the paranormal. I personally feel that it makes more sense in secret then out in the open, as a world openly accepting ghosts and such may be hard to swallow if more people like Claxus are out there.
Like Steve said, the ghosts themselves could power not only the equipment, but also in secret a large amount of the world's electricity source which is officially supposed to be a plasma of some kind, but really ghost souls. Or if Ghost sounds silly, something like 'spirit' or 'wraith' whatever.
The group is small (entirely composed of Enigma and the RPers)
When on a recent mission, they get captured and greeted by someone called the princess of blood, who is able to manipulate the paranormal to create a series of scenarios (Such as a tactics games where each player has command over a certain amount of spirits, a defense game or whatever this is the conceptual stages) where one player out of all of them is forced to somehow betray the others. They can refuse at the cost of their own life, but if they do betray, there is a high chance that someone else, depending on the game, will die.
Separating the groups sounds fine however we don't have enough RPers to make turf wars sound good. I also like the idea of ghosts actually being fought over. Perhaps it could power not only their equipment, but their lives.
Actually, that's it.
The games they employ forces them to use the spirits which power their lives in elaborate games of warfare and bloodshed.

Well, it would need more thought put into it so... thoughts?

[Stove]

I find the concept of the energy being used to power their lives a bit far'fetched (and a bit too much "Madoka Magica") but aside from that I like what you're thinking.
To continue on the last thing you put down, first we'd have to think up how this would be, and why it only applies to the organization.
The Princess of Blood idea sounds good too, but we don't exactly have enough rp'ers to be scrapping for those games, and from what you're saying we can't really make more.

I like how you fused the ideas, you did it well. Those comments above are my only issues, and I agree that it would probably be better to have the ghost hunters in secret.

Also clax, just because Al and I are debating over this doesn't mean it's set in stone. Any ideas for this or a different rp you can pitch in would be great.

[Deleted]

May 20, 2013 15:28:26 GMT Stove said:

I find the concept of the energy being used to power their lives a bit far'fetched (and a bit too much "Madoka Magica") but aside from that I like what you're thinking.
To continue on the last thing you put down, first we'd have to think up how this would be, and why it only applies to the organization.
The Princess of Blood idea sounds good too, but we don't exactly have enough rp'ers to be scrapping for those games, and from what you're saying we can't really make more.

I like how you fused the ideas, you did it well. Those comments above are my only issues, and I agree that it would probably be better to have the ghost hunters in secret.

Also clax, just because Al and I are debating over this doesn't mean it's set in stone. Any ideas for this or a different rp you can pitch in would be great.

I think it could just about work. If the organization were people who Enigma had saved from death by modifying their body to require spirit energy, then I think it could make sense. It wouldn't quite be madoka magica, as Enigma wouldn't necessarily be evil, and he saved their lives rather than giving them a wish, but I suppose the idea of killing monsters to sustain yourself is where you draw the comparison. Bleck.
I think They'd be captured by the princess because they would be the only people who could utilize spirit energy for the game.
You know, if we're already dabbling in the paranormal/science/gibberish side of things, wouldn't it make sense for the things used in the wargames to be mechanical of some kind? Just a thought. I'll stop now because I want to see some of Metal's and Claxus' (although he's already done some fair contributing) thoughts.

Other than that, we probably need to define the games further, or otherwise the general objective of the RP, which I'm having trouble with.

[Metal]

I say the princess of blood or whatever basically straps a bomb to the rpers, and the bomb remains unexploded as long as it is filled with ectoplasm, or something? Maybe like enigma did it to prevent the hunters fron going public and the princess chick used it for her own machinations? Like the bomb device gives the player the ability to manipulate ectoplasm, but when its empty they die, possibly because instead of a bomb the device absorbs life energy to power itself, and so when empty the wearers life source is a viable battery? Idk just a thought, gives the player a reason to compete.

Also i feel like rikus sao rp would have been rushed, and a rehash of rikus other rps with an sao skin on it. Not saying it was, just that. I Feel like it was lol.

The problem with doing an sao one is to run it properly youd need several game masters. Bleh!

[Deleted]

Not really. All you need is one Kayaba stand in to say hi to everyone then the game master could probably bugger off until the end.

That idea doesn't quite sit for me for some reason, though it does answer why the princess would actually need the organization. (Which needs a name)
I like the idea of enigma having saved their lives by attaching a device to them which absorbs spirit energy/ectoplasm, explaining why they would work for him and why they have to fight the paranormal. Perhaps they could do it so that every time they fill two full tanks, they're supposed to donate it to the organization so that Enigma can sell it to the world's power providers? Or maybe Enigma's organization is actually officially a large power company, which it is, but also secretly a paranormal extermination agency? The two jobs perfectly joining together to form a stable company.

At this point I've also thought of a reason why The princess of blood would want to kidnap members of the organization. Basically, it would be similar to wanting to have the members farm spirit energy for her, and loosing all of it would cost them their life, but perhaps the way in which she asks for it (the games and the betrayal) could actually be for an entirely separate agenda... I may have to keep this hidden as a late plot twist...
Oh wait. This is supposed to be an RP based on OUR ideas. I'm getting ahead of myself assuming I'll have creative control/Game master authority over this.
...
Well what do you guys think?

[dillybar64]

I also find that I wish to RP on this forum, but I have only once before because nothing really seems to pique my interest.