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Post by MeAmCryzor on Jun 7, 2009 10:25:03 GMT
Your....not....using....Vaporeon?  ?? I'm hurt  |
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Post by Jay24092 on Aug 9, 2009 22:13:57 GMT
i am replaying pearl ( after compleating platinum) and i have
5 badges and 4 pokemon
Infernape lv 63
Staraptor lv 54
Luxray lv 60
Golom lv 54
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Post by MeAmCryzor on Aug 15, 2009 18:57:31 GMT
^Good rounded team there. At first I thought it said Gloom, not Golom and I was about to make a big objection. Oh well.
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Post by Badog Vi Britania on Jul 13, 2010 5:07:17 GMT
this thread need moar mudkips*shot* welp after reading in this thread i feel like playing soul silver  |
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Post by thadudette on Apr 25, 2011 18:28:30 GMT
HALP! I'm trying to improve my Battle Tower team (trying to get that 5th star, half impossible I know but I can be ambitious ), so lately I've been using Dusknoir (Trick Room, Will-O-Wisp, Shadow Punch, Payback) or Togekiss (Air Slash, Shock Wave, Aura Sphere, Roost) for starters, then Tyranitar (Crunch, Stone Edge, Earthquake, Thunderbolt), and then Shuckle (Double Team, Rest, Sleep Talk, Toxic). The one pretty obvious weakness is steel types and tanks. Is there something I can do to avoid one of those stalemate battles?  |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2011 18:57:10 GMT
I think my uncle's DS screwed up my Pearl!  I was in Crasher Wake's gym and the screen blacked out. I could hear the sound when you are bumping into a wall, but I couldn't see anything! I could still access the menu and use my poketch. I had a combusken, a leafeon, a duskull, a prinplup, and an aron. My dream team was actually umbreon, torterra, agron, dusknoir, blaziken, and empoleon, but I accidently evolved evee in the wrong place. I believe that using the walk through obstacles cheat with an action reply, I may be able to get out! ;D But I have my doubts.  Someone please help me (or face thy wrath)! |
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Post by Death Eye on Apr 25, 2011 20:06:33 GMT
I think my uncle's DS screwed up my Pearl! I was in Crasher Wake's gym and the screen blacked out. I could hear the sound when you are bumping into a wall, but I couldn't see anything! I could still access the menu and use my poketch. I had a combusken, a leafeon, a duskull, a prinplup, and an aron. My dream team was actually umbreon, torterra, agron, dusknoir, blaziken, and empoleon, but I accidently evolved evee in the wrong place. I believe that using the walk through obstacles cheat with an action reply, I may be able to get out! ;D But I have my doubts. Someone please help me (or face thy wrath)! You can do anything with an Action Replay. Literally. As long as you can write a code for it. If walking through walls won't work, I'd recommend a Fly anywhere cheat of some sort. |
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Post by Mad'n'Harry on Apr 25, 2011 22:59:37 GMT
HALP! I'm trying to improve my Battle Tower team (trying to get that 5th star, half impossible I know but I can be ambitious ), so lately I've been using Dusknoir (Trick Room, Will-O-Wisp, Shadow Punch, Payback) or Togekiss (Air Slash, Shock Wave, Aura Sphere, Roost) for starters, then Tyranitar (Crunch, Stone Edge, Earthquake, Thunderbolt), and then Shuckle (Double Team, Rest, Sleep Talk, Toxic). The one pretty obvious weakness is steel types and tanks. Is there something I can do to avoid one of those stalemate battles? Have you considered Thunder Wave instead of Shock Wave on Togekiss? With a 25% chance of full paralysis and 60% chance of flinching, you won't see much opposition. It is an evil and fun strategy that actually works really well against anything that isn't ground. I would avoid using Shuckle last due to having no versatility. Against a Steel type, you can do absolutely nothing but possibly start a Struggle war. Dusknoir: Trick Room and Payback? Also, the difference between Dark and Ghost when attacking is whether you want to hit Normal at all or hit Fighting for neutral damage. Tyranitar: Oh, I have so much fun with this one. Looks pretty good, but I'd imagine it dies to Heracross fairly easily. Consider a Choice Band/Scarf. I'm going to be obvious and state that Steel types like Heatran and Bronzong will kill you. I'm guessing you won't like this suggestion, but I would drop Shuckle for something that can use special attacks if you keep Dusknoir. What sort of alternates do you have? |
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Post by thadudette on Apr 26, 2011 3:24:08 GMT
Have you considered Thunder Wave instead of Shock Wave on Togekiss? With a 25% chance of full paralysis and 60% chance of flinching, you won't see much opposition. It is an evil and fun strategy that actually works really well against anything that isn't ground. Para-flinch? I've trained my Dunsparce to play with that a little  Unfortunately my Togekiss doesn't have Serene Grace (I was dumb enough to pick, out of 2 Togepis, the one with Hustle  )...though it's a fun strategy Or a Poison type I've been wanting to replace Payback, but I put it off for a while when my cousin said it was a cool move XD (yes i'm easily influenced when it comes to Pokemon ) Any suggestions for replacements? You're quite right, thar Maybe, except getting Choice-scarfed when Stone Edge is the best move doesn't sound appealing to me  I'll think about that though [tangent] I was battling with my younger cousin and he made his Heatran use Explosion against my Dusknoir...poor guy [/tangent] Dusknoir's actually the most recent addition to the team, mostly for his Trick Room. My team before was Togekiss, Porygon-Z (Dark Pulse, Hyper Beam, Tri Attack, Recover, and yes I'll probably be stoned for not having Nasty Plot), and Shuckle. As cool as Shuckle is, I can see why its lack of versatility would rule it out of competitive battling sometimes.  Thanks for taking time for this XD |
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Post by Badog Vi Britania on Apr 26, 2011 3:44:36 GMT
so i have learned from pokemon white is that throh is overpowered and emolgas are annoying to fight and darumak hits like a truck |
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Post by Death Eye on Apr 26, 2011 3:49:52 GMT
As cool as Shuckle is, I can see why its lack of versatility would rule it out of competitive battling sometimes. Personally, I'm inclined to say screw competitive battling conventions, use the Shuckle. But that's probably why I'm terrible at anything that could possibly resemble competitive battling. And I agree, Shuckle is cool. EDIT: Didn't even see that post. so i have learned from pokemon white is that throh is overpowered Yes, he is. I never had a problem with them. *is repressing memories of trying to beat the fourth gym with a Drilbur* I don't have one for some reason, so no comment on that. Except that by saying I have no comment, I am commenting... Whatever. |
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Post by Badog Vi Britania on Apr 26, 2011 4:46:25 GMT
i want a drilbur cant seem to find one. where are they located? pre 4th gym plz |
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Post by Mad'n'Harry on Apr 26, 2011 6:40:45 GMT
i want a drilbur cant seem to find one. where are they located? pre 4th gym plz In any cave in the random dust clouds that spurt up. Use repels when you see one, but it might just be a gem. Also, more rant! Hmm, then I see why you run Shock Wave. Para-Flinch has saved me countless times in Battle Tower and against the Elite Four, don't underestimate it. Especially when Togekiss has that huge Special Attack. Dusknoir: Payback is great...when you go last. If you use Trick Room, you won't unless your opposition is...Bronzong...or Shuckle. As for replacing it, I'd go with Brick Break... or Focus Punch if you're feeling lucky. You could also relearn one of the elemental punches if you'd prefer, but fighting and ghost get perfect coverage. TTar: You should really experiment with things first, but hitting something with 134 base power and 150 power after STAB is not something that anything wants to get hit by, except Steelix and Aggron. I actually won't stone you for not having Plot on Pory-Z, but I might stone you because it has Hyper Beam. Seriously, although it has ridiculous power, you really don't want to use it...and steel kills you again. Funny how that works. Go ahead and use Shuckle, but make sure to have backups that aren't destroyed by steel and poison. Hooray for Ground! Also, I'm very glad to help! However, don't just listen to me, I suggest actually testing my advice before trying Battle Tower again. |
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Post by MeAmCryzor on Apr 26, 2011 13:32:32 GMT
I have re-appeared to comment on Duddies team.
IMO this is what you should do;
Run Togekiss, Dusknoir, Tyranitar (assuming those are the only options... if not,I'd replace Togekiss for something with relatively high special attack and speed like Espeon or Alakazam. Although Togekiss should be alright)
Tyranitar:
Choice band (or scarf...maybe. I prefer band, but both are useable) as Harry said, and replace Thunderbolt for Superpower (can learn via move tutor in HG/SS/Platinum). If you're using Diamond and Pearl then replace it for...umm...Outrage/Dragon Claw/Brick Break which are all teachable via TM. If you would rather not waste TMs then reteach it Fire Fang. That would prolly do :3
Dusknoir:
Leftovers obvs and Trick Room should definitely be replaced by Confuse Ray/Curse if you want two status moves. If not, then replace it with Earthquake. Another idea could be to run Resttalk so, you could have a set of Rest/Sleep Talk/Shadow punch/Fire Punch
Togekiss:
As I said before, a special sweeper would be more fitting to this team IMO, but Togekiss could work. The set that you've got there would be fine, and I think should hold a life orb. Although it seems as if you're clutching at straws with this one.
Hope I've been helpful. Feel free to take my advice or ignore me :3
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Post by Death Eye on Apr 26, 2011 19:59:02 GMT
So, in Black/White, if a Pokémon with the Defiant ability uses an attack that lowers its Attack, does its Attack have a net gain? Or does the increase merely negate the decrease? Also, if it uses an attack that lowers two stats does its Attack increase twice? I've just been wondering for a while. (Should this go in the Black/White topic?) Also... Go ahead and use Shuckle, but make sure to have backups that aren't destroyed by steel and poison. Hooray for Ground! Maybe I'm just incompetent, but wouldn't Tyranitar cover that with Earthquake? If not, can't Shuckle learn a Ground-type attack of some sort? Not that it would really help, since it would require that whatever is already set up for Shuckle be ruined to learn it... (Again, I'm probably just incompetent, but how does Sleep Talk help there? To use Double Team after using Rest? Wouldn't that have a 67% chance of failure, with it knowing two other attacks?) |
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Post by Mad'n'Harry on Apr 26, 2011 20:48:06 GMT
Death Eye, I'll just answer your question here. I think it just raises your attack twice immediately after you're hit by something that lowers any number of stats. Actually, does any attack lower more than one of an opponent's stats?
As for your comments on Shuckle, it's defenses are insane, but even when you use Earthquake, something as weak as Pikachu would laugh at the pitiful attempt. You could switch in TTar, but that would involve risking getting hit by a fighting attack.
MAC, I think ResTalk is impossible if she already taught Sleep Talk to Shuckle (assuming no cheating and playing on DS). Unfortunately, Outrage is an egg move, not a TM. Other than that, you seem a bit better at this than me, so I'll stop there.
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Post by Death Eye on Apr 26, 2011 22:53:30 GMT
As for your comments on Shuckle, it's defenses are insane, but even when you use Earthquake, something as weak as Pikachu would laugh at the pitiful attempt. You could switch in TTar, but that would involve risking getting hit by a fighting attack. ...I forgot about that. I was actually referring to if it used an attack like Superpower, which lowers Attack and Defense (Right?) of the user. But I think there was an attack that lowers multiple stats; I'm not sure what... Doesn't Memento lower Attack and Special Attack? *looks it up* Yeah. Memento lowers the Attack and Special Attack of the target. Also, while I was looking it up, I began to wonder if the Defiant ability causes an Attack increase when moves like Heart Swap, Guard Split, etc. cause a stat decrease. Do they? |
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Post by The Regal RP Mod on Apr 26, 2011 23:50:01 GMT
you guys do know that under perfect circumstances, shuckle can easily become one of the most powerful physical attackers in game right? with perfect circumstances he can do 213,896,052 damage in one shot. but otherwise if a level 100 Shuckle uses Power Trick, and is then skill swapped with Pure Power or Huge Power, it would obtain a maximum attack stat of 1228. its defense will become crappy though so it becomes a Glass Cannon |
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Post by Badog Vi Britania on Apr 26, 2011 23:59:00 GMT
^ (0.0) x 134
whoda thunk that shuckle could be a glass cannon
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Post by Death Eye on Apr 27, 2011 0:13:47 GMT
^ (0.0) x 134 whoda thunk that shuckle could be a glass cannon *raises hand* I'da thunk that Shuckle could be a glass cannon. I tried it. But the circumstances were far from perfect, and it turned out to be more of a Styrofoam handgun than a glass cannon. More durable than I anticipated, but not very powerful at all. you guys do know that under perfect circumstances, shuckle can easily become one of the most powerful physical attackers in game right? with perfect circumstances he can do 213,896,052 damage in one shot. but otherwise if a level 100 Shuckle uses Power Trick, and is then skill swapped with Pure Power or Huge Power, it would obtain a maximum attack stat of 1228. its defense will become crappy though so it becomes a Glass Cannon...Perfect circumstances being...? Do you take into account the possibility of it somehow being turned into a Normal type and using Explosion? Is that even possible? And if it is, would that be better than... whatever you defined perfect circumstances as? |
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