Speed running Gotcha Force

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I'm new to the forum so sorry if i post this in the wrong area, but for a while i've been thinking about speed running Gotcha Force and i wanted to know if anyone has advice? like which Borg would be the best one to use, or the fastest to get through battles, Etc.

[Stove]

Jun 11, 2017 23:23:03 GMT @reversemanjr said:

I'm new to the forum so sorry if i post this in the wrong area, but for a while i've been thinking about speed running Gotcha Force and i wanted to know if anyone has advice? like which Borg would be the best one to use, or the fastest to get through battles, Etc.

From a New Game, Beam Gunner is generally seen as the best choice. You receive it through the 20th Force Glitch at the start and use it through most of the playthrough.

As for New Game +, large dragon borgs are generally the most effective at late-game. There are a few speedruns saved that go over what the best route for levels is. I'll try to find one for you.

That said, welcome!

[Ayano☆ＵＬＴＲＡ]

What if its a no glitch speedrun though??

[thadudette]

Welcome to GFF, reversemanjr! Be careful of the exploding chocolate popcorn of destiny; the kernels can get stuck in your teeth.

I have never speedrun Gotcha Force in my life, but here's a link to a thread started several years ago that discusses the topic:
gotchaforcefan.proboards.com/thread/4476/story-speedrun

[Stove]

Jun 14, 2017 2:12:11 GMT Ayano☆ＵＬＴＲＡ said:

What if its a no glitch speedrun though??

Glitchless% doesn't seem to be a category anyone really runs, and understandably so; the sheer RNG of the run, while fun on one hand due to the fact that one would have to adapt on the fly, would make it frustrating to run because you could get RNG screwed by not getting any of the stronger borgs throughout your run.

[Frozazen]

Welcome to the boards, reversemanjr!
Be mentally prepared before fighting Sho for the first time
I'll try to help with borg picks

For starters I'd say that if you stick G-Red at the front of your force, you should be able to clear most of the beginning stages. Then when you get Neo G-Red then you stick him at the front, instead. Neo-G I think is the best carry borg for story mode from a clean start.
Some tips for using G-Red: don't charge up his B (the SA beam aka Super-Accurate beam) if you can help it. It doesn't do that much damage and makes the enemy fly off with invincibility state. Boost in while shooting, do the close-range B attacks, and end it with X. Rinse and repeat. If the enemy is big, spam B shot and kite them to stay safe. For dragons/fortress borgs, you should have Neo G-Red by this time so use the close-range B + X combo until they die. Neo G-Red can also chain X into another X so watch out for those times.

If you want to do a glitch-less run, I'll list some common carry borgs down you can stick after Neo G-Red:
>Revolver Gunman (spam shots, dont use anything else to attack)
>Orange Fighter (charge B, that is all. also press A occasionally to avoid dying)
>Blue Striker (charge B, that is all)
>Vampire Knight (this guy is a dragon slayer. lives forever against large, slow targets and does a lot of damage)
>Hatchet/Axe Knight (these guys shine when you have Power Burst, aka Y button)
>Shuriken Ninja (can't tell if he is powerful or just feels powerful)
>any of the Valkyries (learn to wing glide, which consists of pressing X to get to the desired height before rapidly tapping B and moving around. You'll get a long string of bullets and amazing maneuverability)


If you're going with the 20th force glitch I'll put down some of the carry borgs that rip through enemies without dying, but most are difficult to get normally during the game.
My personal comp to run through the game is a 2-borg team consisting of Neo G-Red and Samurai Shogun. Then substitute/add the specialists as needed.

The carry borgs are split between SA Beam, rain-of-pain, and close-range borgs.

Notable SA beam borgs are:
Samurai Shogun (#1 carry overall imo for sheer damage and maneuverability. Still put Neo G in front to charge Y, though)
**Metal Hero (only use for big dragons and fortress borgs. Can insta-kill. Weak to explosions and Death Saucer beams)
Beam Gunner
any of the dragons minus wing/phoenix and space/cosmic dragon (bigger is better b/c superarmor)
Cyber Hero
Sapphire Knight

Notable rain of pain borgs (spam bullets until they die):
Anubis Wing / Garuda (charge B spam, lives forever)
Death Borg Sigma II
Death Borg Sigma
Beam Wing Red
Beam Wing Blue
Gold Hero (lives forever, high damage)
Cyber Ninja
Cyber/Proto Mars
Machine/Proto Red

Notable close-combat borgs are:
Neo G-Red
G Black
Planet Hero (air-dash attack, that is all)
Vampire Knight (dragon slayer)
Vlad


This is just off the top of my head so if others have anything to add please do so haha. Good luck, my friend

[Ayano☆ＵＬＴＲＡ]

Jun 14, 2017 7:25:36 GMT Stove said:

Jun 14, 2017 2:12:11 GMT Ayano☆ＵＬＴＲＡ said:

What if its a no glitch speedrun though??

Glitchless% doesn't seem to be a category anyone really runs, and understandably so; the sheer RNG of the run, while fun on one hand due to the fact that one would have to adapt on the fly, would make it frustrating to run because you could get RNG screwed by not getting any of the stronger borgs throughout your run.

Well, it should be :p very good point though, I'd never considered that :C

[Stove]

Jun 15, 2017 0:18:03 GMT Ayano☆ＵＬＴＲＡ said:

Jun 14, 2017 7:25:36 GMT Stove said:

Glitchless% doesn't seem to be a category anyone really runs, and understandably so; the sheer RNG of the run, while fun on one hand due to the fact that one would have to adapt on the fly, would make it frustrating to run because you could get RNG screwed by not getting any of the stronger borgs throughout your run.

Well, it should be very good point though, I'd never considered that :C

I disagree. The point of a speedrun is to clear the game as quickly as possible.

Besides, one of the coolest parts about speedruns is how they break the game. Showing off the biggest glitch in the game is pretty cool in that regard.


ALSO, if you're speedrunning, don't forget that you can skip the initial Orochi fight by entering and exiting the battle immediately.

[Frozazen]

They have speedruns for both Glitchless and any % for multiple games, though.

Ocarina of Time is a good example. I think some people just want to compare how fast they can go through the whole game without using glitches. It does take a while and it's not as cool to watch as the runs with exploits, but people that like it do it.

[Stove]

Jun 15, 2017 22:09:02 GMT Frozazen said:

They have speedruns for both Glitchless and any % for multiple games, though.

Ocarina of Time is a good example. I think some people just want to compare how fast they can go through the whole game without using glitches. It does take a while and it's not as cool to watch as the runs with exploits, but people that like it do it.

Glitchless% runs usually only exist if the original run is totally destroyed by glitches, such as Ocarina of Time or Luigi's Mansion.

This glitch removes RNG and is beneficial to the game as a whole. As a result, this would likely not have a glitchless%.

[Frozazen]

I get what you mean. The glitches and exploits definitely make speedrunning more competitive. You're right, but why limit people by refusing to accept a style of play? I thought speedrunning was more of a personal thing; to see how fast you the player can beat the game. I'm sure some people like seeing how lucky they are and how hilarious RNG can be during their speedruns. If people want to play glitchless, I wouldn't stop them, much less say that they are bad for Gotcha Force. Heck, anyone wanting to play GF in the first place is good for the game

Of course, I think it'd be totally rad to see the ideal speeds for completing GF including exploits and glitches, since literally no one has tried it (or have they )