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Post by Carigun on Nov 21, 2015 21:22:04 GMT
 lets rate the beast.
i really, really, really like the beast. he has good attacks, good speed and can shrug of an ICMB he is my kinda borg. one who wants to go on the offensive with speed. i actually prefer him over blade wing since blade wing throws his weapon away half the time. 8/10 as he is a bit pricey. |
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Post by Stove on Nov 21, 2015 21:41:09 GMT
9/10. He's extremely powerful, but he's a very poor team player with his incredibly quick explosions, and he's expensive.
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Post by Carigun on Nov 21, 2015 21:56:31 GMT
he's a very poor team player took you long enough to notice im not a team player. in the dragon fight at mana's i select tama to draw there fire and die. |
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Post by Stove on Nov 21, 2015 21:58:44 GMT
he's a very poor team player took you long enough to notice im not a team player. in the dragon fight at mana's i select tama to draw there fire and die. I was referring to Garuda as a borg. |
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Post by Carigun on Nov 21, 2015 22:01:01 GMT
took you long enough to notice im not a team player. in the dragon fight at mana's i select tama to draw there fire and die. I was referring to Garuda as a borg. if you say so, in truth i was trying to be honist and have a bit fun. |
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Post by Stove on Nov 21, 2015 22:14:43 GMT
I was referring to Garuda as a borg. if you say so, in truth i was trying to be honist and have a bit fun. NO FUN ALLOWED! |
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Post by Carigun on Nov 21, 2015 22:16:31 GMT
if you say so, in truth i was trying to be honist and have a bit fun. NO FUN ALLOWED! ok guy with a penis looking ghost... |
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Post by thadudette on Nov 22, 2015 2:11:11 GMT
^  Wow, I haven't used the chair in years ...  On-topic: I don't see why anyone would rate Garuda as any less than 6. He's fast, powerful AND tanky all in one, and fun to use  Yeah the explosions get annoying, but usually that can be remedied by switching targets. Which obviously wouldn't work in every situation but ... it's a small price to pay, especially since most of us don't play team with anyone besides dopey CPUs ;3 |
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Post by Dyrozix on Nov 22, 2015 3:33:09 GMT
^ Wow, I haven't used the chair in years ... On-topic: I don't see why anyone would rate Garuda as any less than 6. He's fast, powerful AND tanky all in one, and fun to use Yeah the explosions get annoying, but usually that can be remedied by switching targets. Which obviously wouldn't work in every situation but ... it's a small price to pay, especially since most of us don't play team with anyone besides dopey CPUs ;3 I only play with myself. I put a controller in my feet, and with my hands. (I actually have a video of this wandering around my house on one of 20 SD cards) I'm my own team player Since everybody has something offtopic. I have honestly never used this borg. I've watched a playthrough of someone with it. He's From what I see a fantastic build. Practically invincible with the x-dive and strafe speed with the explosion combo. Great all around. Fairly expensive, but your only real worries are the Ultimate cannon or those other borgs that have those kinds of lasers. With the amount of strafe and slash you can do. Your hp will hold out. Considering you can use this borg almost immediately in the story. He definitely will return the favor of cost at least three times. That and he's one of the few AI controlled borgs that's hard to read. Garuda also can practically stay moving rapidly a whole game only pausing to stop moving when he throws the Large fireball. The only time his animation forces him to stand still. Only shortly. I know that much because the only way a Revolver gunman can outgun a garuda is at a far range and timing the shots for those moments. X.X 9/10 not perfect because he can't heal himself if he could. Everyday OP |
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Post by njayhuang on Nov 22, 2015 4:21:41 GMT
Garuda is an absolute beast; speed, power, and flying all rolled into one package. I think he's worth the high cost, but doesn't get a 10/10 for not being able to move when using his charge B.
G Red and Neo G can't move during their charge B either but they can hide behind obstacles and shoot through walls, whereas Garuda's charge B requires him to move out of cover. I'm mentally debating whether that is a big enough downside to warrant one whole point off or if he still deserves a 10 in spite of that one weakness. For now, I'm giving him a 9.
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Post by Stove on Nov 22, 2015 4:27:38 GMT
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Post by Frozazen on Nov 22, 2015 4:38:10 GMT
11/10 Best borg in the game. Being a winged borg means he has infinite air dashes, and can even change direction while dashing. Plus he has wing gliding at his disposal as well, making his mobility amazing even if he's not the fastest winged borg. HP is high so that he won't die from stray bullets and the rare SA beam that actually nails him. Now his offense is off the charts. The only move he needs is his charge B flame bombs. Explosions have a huge range and can hit behind shields, do massive damage, and make people fly off (also can we get a shoutout for Garuda during burst mode? This guy is a BEAST). He has an advantage against most of the cast (aka everyone besides himself and Anubis Wing). He can fly, so all grounded borgs are already at a huge disadvantage with their targeting thrown off and loss of close-range options. The big dragons have trouble once Garuda flies high enough, being the big targets they are. Fellow winged borgs have worse projectiles, so when Garuda lands a hit he makes them go down HARD. Even Cyber ninja the king of pew pews might only land a few shots on Garuda before Garuda's explosions rack up enough damage. As soon as you hit 750 GFE in the game all you really need is Garuda to win if you're good at dodging. He's a one-borg army that can take down any other upper echelon borg in a 1v1, and absolutely dominate everything else without even getting a scratch. Not really a team player, true, but do you really have any qualms when both you and your partner have Garuda/Anubis wing? Is there really anything to fear with this setup? Usually Garuda just makes things less fun because equal-opportunity Batman makes close-range fighting really annoying. Even Sho never dies with Garuda when he's on your team, and that darn borg is really the only reason the first TUFF STUFF is, well, tuff >.> <.< The few things Garuda has trouble with are fortress borgs with huge HP and can hit decently well with the sweeping beam, making it a game of who can dodge/hit better (I'd say about 50/50 Garuda wins, and he costs less than fortress borgs). Other winged borgs are just an annoyance because they cannot hit Garuda, but can dodge the flame bombs much more easily than all the other borgs. Despite all this, Garuda doesn't fall because the opponent was stronger; Garuda falls because he let himself get hit enough times to die from chip damage. That's what power looks like. With all this said, I'm so glad Capcom let us have Garuda, because he looks really cool, and really lets me experience true superiority when the urge comes in or I feel like winning a Nuzlocke  |
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Post by Stove on Nov 22, 2015 4:50:25 GMT
Garuda is an absolute beast; speed, power, and flying all rolled into one package. I think he's worth the high cost, but doesn't get a 10/10 for not being able to move when using his charge B. G Red and Neo G can't move during their charge B either but they can hide behind obstacles and shoot through walls, whereas Garuda's charge B requires him to move out of cover. I'm mentally debating whether that is a big enough downside to warrant one whole point off or if he still deserves a 10 in spite of that one weakness. For now, I'm giving him a 9. Oh, he's easily worth the high cost; I'd say he's probably the most versatile borg in the game with amazing melee, long range, mobility and even defense (why can he shrug off an ICBM? That makes no sense.) He's just not as good as other borgs who can get the same results he can for a smaller amount. Particularly, Neo G Red, Cyber Ninja, and Sigma II. His range also suffers greatly in team fights, but in Story, taking him into battle is almost an instant win button. The big dragons have trouble once Garuda flies high enough, being the big targets they are. I've been preaching this for a long time, but if you're playing dragons properly, the opposing Garuda can't be "high enough" as dragons spend their time up there, not on the ground. When I get some sort of way to capture Gotcha Force footage efficiently, I need to make a video about this because it's frustrating that people think the dragons have a bunch of flaws they don't really have. The only flaw dragons really have is that they're much worse when the opponent hovers right underneath them, and even then those opponents can be lured out with bombs or big dragons can actually outmaneuver a lot of the cast. The big dragons are really the only borgs that actually check/counter Garuda because the main thing he has that causes him to counter most borgs (his amazing bombs) do a whole lot of nothing for stage control against dragons. |
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Post by Dyrozix on Nov 22, 2015 5:02:46 GMT
Garuda is an absolute beast; speed, power, and flying all rolled into one package. I think he's worth the high cost, but doesn't get a 10/10 for not being able to move when using his charge B. G Red and Neo G can't move during their charge B either but they can hide behind obstacles and shoot through walls, whereas Garuda's charge B requires him to move out of cover. I'm mentally debating whether that is a big enough downside to warrant one whole point off or if he still deserves a 10 in spite of that one weakness. For now, I'm giving him a 9. Oh, he's easily worth the high cost; I'd say he's probably the most versatile borg in the game with amazing melee, long range, mobility and even defense (why can he shrug off an ICBM? That makes no sense.) He's just not as good as other borgs who can get the same results he can for a smaller amount. Particularly, Neo G Red, Cyber Ninja, and Sigma II. His range also suffers greatly in team fights, but in Story, taking him into battle is almost an instant win button. I propose that Garuda/anubis/bladewing's only purpose was to force them to use a borg that can compete with them in the story for fear of losing. I rarely tried fighting Sho without G-red or Cyber Ninja or another Well made borg, just because. I'd normally get wrecked. ( of course after a while I said Challenge accepted and killed JUST garuda once with a Billy. Once. Never again. Probably couldn't do it again) Garuda was designed to be a challenge to a player, while being controlled by an AI. I think he plays so very well into the ambiance of the story in that aspect, an AI that's actually challenging. (at least the first few playthroughs. It forced the main hero's borg out for me, or I'd take the loss.) Great character. |
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Post by Stove on Nov 22, 2015 5:04:55 GMT
Oh, he's easily worth the high cost; I'd say he's probably the most versatile borg in the game with amazing melee, long range, mobility and even defense (why can he shrug off an ICBM? That makes no sense.) He's just not as good as other borgs who can get the same results he can for a smaller amount. Particularly, Neo G Red, Cyber Ninja, and Sigma II. His range also suffers greatly in team fights, but in Story, taking him into battle is almost an instant win button. I propose that Garuda/anubis/bladewing's only purpose was to force them to use a borg that can compete with them in the story for fear of losing. I rarely tried fighting Sho without G-red or Cyber Ninja or another Well made borg, just because. I'd normally get wrecked. ( of course after a while I said Challenge accepted and killed JUST garuda once with a Billy. Once. Never again. Probably couldn't do it again) Garuda was designed to be a challenge to a player, while being controlled by an AI. I think he plays so very well into the ambiance of the story in that aspect, an AI that's actually challenging. (at least the first few playthroughs. It forced the main hero's borg out for me, or I'd take the loss.) Great character. Yup. The only other borgs I know of that can actually take on Garuda pretty well is Cyber Girl Hyper, and Sirius/Antares (despite his mobility, he's so big that they have no trouble hitting him.) And these aren't even the borgs that counter Garuda, these are just the borgs that can reliably take him on. |
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Post by Dyrozix on Nov 22, 2015 5:15:05 GMT
Even G-red struggles. He doesn't flinch when the tip of an explosion hits him, but he can't dodge out of it very quickly. Are there any fortress borgs that cost less than 1k? There's one fight in the beginning where you fight Sho that's fairly early. I can't remember the cost at that point though. It might be more.
I like how that picture at the top says. Garuda has a boost jump.. I guess that what Capcom defines boost jump.
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Post by Stove on Nov 22, 2015 5:34:08 GMT
Even G-red struggles. He doesn't flinch when the tip of an explosion hits him, but he can't dodge out of it very quickly. Are there any fortress borgs that cost less than 1k? There's one fight in the beginning where you fight Sho that's fairly early. I can't remember the cost at that point though. It might be more. I like how that picture at the top says. Garuda has a boost jump.. I guess that what Capcom defines boost jump. Neo doesn't really struggle, but standard G-Red does. |
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Post by Frozazen on Nov 22, 2015 15:10:38 GMT
I totally forgot about DB Sigma(II) haha. If there's any borg that can take down Garuda, it's these two. Superior movement and good, accurate beam shots make Garuda a sad bot. And with such a big difference in cost, too! I can't see Garuda making a scratch on these guys while they dodge around and shoot him to death.
As for the big dragons I'm really gonna have to take your word for it, Steve, because atm I can't imagine going up against Garuda using a big dragon...
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Post by Stove on Nov 22, 2015 16:23:47 GMT
I totally forgot about DB Sigma(II) haha. If there's any borg that can take down Garuda, it's these two. Superior movement and good, accurate beam shots make Garuda a sad bot. And with such a big difference in cost, too! I can't see Garuda making a scratch on these guys while they dodge around and shoot him to death. As for the big dragons I'm really gonna have to take your word for it, Steve, because atm I can't imagine going up against Garuda using a big dragon... Sigma does have to be extremely careful as one misstep means death for him with Garuda's dominating mobility and bombs, but Sigma can conceivably win against a player controller Garuda, and even if he dies he probably got quite a bit of damage in and still only costs 180. |
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Post by Dyrozix on Nov 22, 2015 22:13:24 GMT
You could throw four sigmas at the cost of Garuda if 180 is the cost. Plus 2 death eyes. and a roach. Cus Why not?
Sigma is hard mode one mistake you done son, Garuda is easy mode take a hit, share a hit. You alright kid.
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Yeah the explosions get annoying, but usually that can be remedied by switching targets. Which obviously wouldn't work in every situation but ... it's a small price to pay, especially since most of us don't play team with anyone besides dopey CPUs ;3
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