|
|
Post by Metal on Feb 27, 2015 5:19:24 GMT
I'll be sure to keep that in mind. As for Shinji, people have a difficult time understanding his character. Complaints largely boil down to 'I wanted a hero I could project myself onto like every other similar work of fiction.' Shinji is only chosen in that only people his age can pilot the Evangelion, anyone else in his class (or even a computer as we later find out) could pilot the Eva. Shinji absolutely hates piloting however, and he only gets psychologically (and often physically) hurt every time he fights an Angel. He's essentially emotionally manipulated into doing so using the usual Mecha cliches, weather the other characters such as Misato meant to or not, and ultimately Shinji also needs the validation that comes with piloting the Eva because it's the only way he'll ever get praise and validation from his father. I really recommend watching Evangelion. It's a must watch for any anime fan, let alone mech fans. You shouldn't worry too much, most of the show is an above average Gundam-like show that I think you would enjoy as a fun time. Just keep an eye on the characters as the episodes progress. I never could get into evangelion, the plot was just meh to me. Plus shinjis whining got annoying. The only character i liked was misato. And the penguin. |
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2015 12:23:20 GMT
As for Shinji, people have a difficult time understanding his character. Complaints largely boil down to 'I wanted a hero I could project myself onto like every other similar work of fiction.' |
|
|
|
Post by Metal on Feb 27, 2015 13:55:13 GMT
As for Shinji, people have a difficult time understanding his character. Complaints largely boil down to 'I wanted a hero I could project myself onto like every other similar work of fiction.' No as a character i thought that he was there, but constantly hearing "i dont wanna pilot the eva" and then him doing it anyways got old. Like if he hadnt been whiney about his defiance he wouldve been a great character. Then again, i guess he was 12... |
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2015 14:13:45 GMT
14. Shinji's actions feed into his character. He doesn't want to pilot the Eva, but on the other hand, the emotional security he feels from piloting it is more valuable to him than the physical/psychological trauma he has to face. It's not so much about the satisfaction of saving the world, as much as it is about people like Misato and his Father praising him for piloting it. He feels like he has a place at NERVE, and he feels his life is worthless and lonely without the Eva. That's why he pilots the Eva despite not wanting to.
|
|
|
|
Post by Metal on Feb 27, 2015 19:37:49 GMT
14. Shinji's actions feed into his character. He doesn't want to pilot the Eva, but on the other hand, the emotional security he feels from piloting it is more valuable to him than the physical/psychological trauma he has to face. It's not so much about the satisfaction of saving the world, as much as it is about people like Misato and his Father praising him for piloting it. He feels like he has a place at NERVE, and he feels his life is worthless and lonely without the Eva. That's why he pilots the Eva despite not wanting to. I got all that. Just saying he could whine less, but again he is 12? Or somewhere in the 12-15 age bracket. But again the only character i liked was misato. And really liked is a strong word. I just generally didnt like evangelion. Especially the plot twists, that were glaringly obvious thanks to all the foreshadowing in the show. At least to me, then again i figured out the detective was the guy who wrote the trick routines in now you see me really early on too... Btw that movie that i just spoiled? Totally worth seeing. |
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2015 20:28:41 GMT
His age is 14. Eva's plot isn't really worth considering too deeply, it isn't really trying to surprise you with plot twists. In the end, the plot is just a vehicle for the characters more than anything. Regardless of that, I see no way how you were supposed to predict the ending or the End of Evangelion since not even Anno himself planned for them.
|
|
|
|
Post by Stove on Feb 27, 2015 21:42:52 GMT
14. Shinji's actions feed into his character. He doesn't want to pilot the Eva, but on the other hand, the emotional security he feels from piloting it is more valuable to him than the physical/psychological trauma he has to face. It's not so much about the satisfaction of saving the world, as much as it is about people like Misato and his Father praising him for piloting it. He feels like he has a place at NERVE, and he feels his life is worthless and lonely without the Eva. That's why he pilots the Eva despite not wanting to. I got all that. Just saying he could whine less, but again he is 12? Or somewhere in the 12-15 age bracket. But again the only character i liked was misato. And really liked is a strong word. I just generally didnt like evangelion. Especially the plot twists, that were glaringly obvious thanks to all the foreshadowing in the show. At least to me, then again i figured out the detective was the guy who wrote the trick routines in now you see me really early on too... Btw that movie that i just spoiled? Totally worth seeing. It was pretty good. I didn't figure that out at all, it's one of the few plot twists that was actually good. (lookingatyoufrozenbighero6) I still need to watch Eva at some point. |
|
|
|
Post by Metal on Feb 28, 2015 4:11:02 GMT
His age is 14. Eva's plot isn't really worth considering too deeply, it isn't really trying to surprise you with plot twists. In the end, the plot is just a vehicle for the characters more than anything. Regardless of that, I see no way how you were supposed to predict the ending or the End of Evangelion since not even Anno himself planned for them. Oh i just meant the eva being angels, rei being a clone of shinjis mom. Etc. They were obvious to me, the ending i thought was really dumb, kind of ruined the whole point of the show if i remember right. I mean this is all my opinion, and while evangelion is by no means a bad show, i just generally didnt like it. Ive tried to get into it, and was generally disappoint each time. Also steve, those movies are technically marketed at children... |
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2015 4:54:17 GMT
It doesn't matter if they're marketed at children. You are aware of how huge Frozen is, right?
You are also aware that you didn't put spoiler tags around the spoilers?
And what, pray tell, was the 'point' of the show if the ending ruined it?
|
|
|
|
Post by Metal on Feb 28, 2015 7:12:18 GMT
It doesn't matter if they're marketed at children. You are aware of how huge Frozen is, right? You are also aware that you didn't put spoiler tags around the spoilers? And what, pray tell, was the 'point' of the show if the ending ruined it? Yes i know how big frozen is. Yes also aware because i cant get spoiler tags to work on my phone. Well they set it up like they are trying to save the world... |
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2015 12:20:41 GMT
The plot is a metaphor for the character's internal torment and works in service of them, not the other way around. Saving the world may be the 'plot' of a story but that may not be what the story is even about. Put aside your confusion and listen to what the characters are actually saying. I assume you watched the End of Evangelion Movie?
|
|
|
|
Post by Metal on Mar 1, 2015 3:15:19 GMT
The plot is a metaphor for the character's internal torment and works in service of them, not the other way around. Saving the world may be the 'plot' of a story but that may not be what the story is even about. Put aside your confusion and listen to what the characters are actually saying. I assume you watched the End of Evangelion Movie? Its been awhile, but yes. And im not confused, i understood all that stuff, like i said, evangelion is not my cup of tea. Its by no means bad, i just couldnt get into it, i wanted to like it, but i never could seem too. |
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2015 4:14:41 GMT
The plot is a metaphor for the character's internal torment and works in service of them, not the other way around. Saving the world may be the 'plot' of a story but that may not be what the story is even about. Put aside your confusion and listen to what the characters are actually saying. I assume you watched the End of Evangelion Movie? Its been awhile, but yes. And im not confused, i understood all that stuff, like i said, evangelion is not my cup of tea. Its by no means bad, i just couldnt get into it, i wanted to like it, but i never could seem too. I guess that's just how it goes. |
|
|
|
Post by Frozazen on Mar 4, 2015 15:59:02 GMT
I've been reading Assassination Classroom and watching Shirobako  Assassination Classroom is SO GOOD. Matsui Yuusei managed to pull off a slice-of-life + action, with colorful characters, and put in a lot of thought towards character development and plot, while still keeping it enjoyable for middle-schoolers. I especially like how everyone has two sides, just as an assassin should have. I'm sure we all have at least two sides to us, whichever one is our "true" identity is up to the situation. The instructors are also amazing, in that even though they are elite fighters, they care about their students. There is also the big argument in the best way to teach someone. The teachers all doubt their own teaching skills, but they know they need to present themselves as confident in their knowledge. Matsui made learning fun, and gives you teachers that you would respect, even irl. Shirobako is kind of just a nice escape for me. I really like the thought process going into making an anime, and the steps that the company makes in their creations is amazing. The amount of teamwork needed is astounding, much more than there is in Bakuman (though Bakuman is arguably more intersting  ) There are some annoying characters, but it's all a part of life  |
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2015 2:25:41 GMT
I've been reading Assassination Classroom and watching Shirobako Assassination Classroom is SO GOOD. Matsui Yuusei managed to pull off a slice-of-life + action, with colorful characters, and put in a lot of thought towards character development and plot, while still keeping it enjoyable for middle-schoolers. I especially like how everyone has two sides, just as an assassin should have. I'm sure we all have at least two sides to us, whichever one is our "true" identity is up to the situation. The instructors are also amazing, in that even though they are elite fighters, they care about their students. There is also the big argument in the best way to teach someone. The teachers all doubt their own teaching skills, but they know they need to present themselves as confident in their knowledge. Matsui made learning fun, and gives you teachers that you would respect, even irl. Shirobako is kind of just a nice escape for me. I really like the thought process going into making an anime, and the steps that the company makes in their creations is amazing. The amount of teamwork needed is astounding, much more than there is in Bakuman (though Bakuman is arguably more intersting ) There are some annoying characters, but it's all a part of life I really need to watch Shirobako, I hear really good things about it. I've been watching the anime adaption of Assassination Classroom, which I think is far better than it really has any right to be. I'm not getting much in the way of the duality of the characters, except when Kuro sensei gets angry. Maybe the novel focuses on the duality more than the anime, or maybe I just don't see it. I'm more fond of how assassination is a stand in for 'your talent' which relates to their actual schoolwork as well. It also has quite possibly one of the most important messages it could possibly give to its target audience- have a backup plan, or a 'second knife' as Kuro sensei put it. These damn kids think they can get rich off of killing a near-invincible tentacle monster, but Kuro sensei makes it clear that if they neglect their studies then they're not going to have anything left should they fail to kill him. Every kid ever thinks they're going to be a celebrity because they have a specific talent or hobby that they enjoy, and discussing that fantasy maturely and consciously in a story like this I feel is very admirable. Oh, I also like how Kuro-sensei is actually a good villain rather than a cartoonishly evil mascot. But my god, Death Parade keeps getting better every episode. Episode 9 truly shows that this show understands people on a fundamental level. I can't imagine many stories that would have the audacity to build a premise simply so that they can utterly demolish it in every respect, simply to prove how shallow, juvenile, and nihilistic the premise was to begin with. If you want to even begin to 'judge' something or someone, you need empathy, you don't dispassionately dismantle the person using a set of arbitrary rules. Death Parade nailed it. |
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2015 18:58:09 GMT
Man, some of the new shows airing this season have felt pretty old, like early to mid 2000's anime.
Urobuchi, please start actually writing scripts again.
WIT, if you've made a show that's generated as much money and popularity as Attack On Titan, please use that new budget. If you're just going to replicate AoT, at least do it well, and at least have enough confidence in your distopian setting to not have to resort to highschool shonen settings and, I'm being dead serious, prophecies. What kind of hack writer still uses prophecies in earnest these days?
|
|
|
|
Post by Indigo on Apr 4, 2015 19:41:17 GMT
Does Xenoblade count?
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2015 19:49:23 GMT
Well, Xenoblade isn't really using prophecies in earnest, and they're not really 'prophecies' to begin with. Owari no Seraph is using prophecies as 'ah, here is the destined hero who will save us from the evil vampires!' Whereas in Xenoblade there are no prophecies, and being able to predict the future (and granting others the ability to do so) is something the villain uses to manipulate events to his own ends, so following prophecies just helps him. There's a difference between telling the audience 'don't worry, everything will be ok in the end because cultural standards justified by herble jerble magic thing said so' and 'screw what others tell you no matter how strong they are, you decide your own fate'. ... Now that I think about it, the fact that Seraph is using prophecies to begin with is pretty ironic, considering the show is all about defying authority. This is why it's important to think about what you're writing I guess. |
|
|
|
Post by Stove on Apr 5, 2015 8:34:50 GMT
But I CAN change the future! ...except when he can't. |
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2015 22:01:20 GMT
Ultimate Otaku Teacher was about as bad as that title would suggest.
Nagato-Yuki Chan basically took Haruhi, removed the insanity and snark, and fluffed it up with Moe. I'm not going to cry foul, call it awful and tell everyone that it ruined Haruhi, but it wasn't really my thing.
Punch Line is... uh, indescribable. Is it a horrible core idea/show packed with lots of original and interesting ideas, along with an earnest and enthusiastic energy, or is it a good show that happens to unfortunately be centered around a (ghost) guy who causes the apocalypse if he ever gets too excited from seeing a girl's panties? Eh, both...
Second episode of Seraph of the End was a lot better, but hot damn this show must have had a lot of production issues. Where did all the Attack on Titan money go? Who pocketed it? Why does this show not look at least as good as AoT? Actually, I kinda prefer the aesthetics in Seraph even if they are really generic, because I didn't like the shiny/sweaty animation with the thick lines in AoT personally. I can't really describe it. But the story itself also seems to have been rewritten extensively, because the second episode feels really different to the first one. Different setting, different set-up, different tone, different themes... only the main character is a recognisable element here, and he's still fun to watch for all the insufferably wrong reasons. Anyway, they seem to have forgotten about the whole chosen one thing (Again, I'm willing to bet there were rewrites and other production issues) and Yu spends most of the episode being an oblivious git being made fun of. I like this more than AoT actually. I like how the early on death gets treated with more respect, as Yu has dream sequences of the Mika character talking to him at that exact moment, playing out differently each time. It's like he keeps coming back to the death of his orphan family. It's not too special, but it makes the death feels less trivial than it does in shows like AoT or Akame Ga Kill. I like their emphasis on team work, I like how the heroine actually has a personality as opposed to Mikasa who may as well have been wallpaper, and the animation in the fight scenes just about pull their weight when they count. Can't believe I actually had this much to write about such a silly little show. It's ok.
Oh, but the real show to be watching is definitely Blood Blockade Battlefront. Pure talent on screen right here. So far, it's mainly been style over substance. It's a really fun jazzy style with excellent music (bump of chicken!!!) music, animation, and direction.
Sometimes I have no idea what's going on in the heat of the moment, because it feels like I'm watching characters as opposed to a story, the show hates exposition. Either way, I find myself understanding the characters and the world despite this fact, and I just have a great time. Pick of the season for me.
|
|
I made a thing... Long live Gotcha Force!!!
