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Post by dillybar64 on May 5, 2013 23:38:46 GMT
I don't know if you need to delete it. Some of that info is pretty useful, just in need of being heavily reworded... Go for it. |
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Post by Carigun on May 6, 2013 14:00:00 GMT
how about i just add the bio with the subtitle Description Go for it. |
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Post by dillybar64 on May 6, 2013 16:22:04 GMT
ok il do that. im thinking is we add pages for the fights. just that i dont think Defeat The Death Force fights are needed to be added though. Having info on each mission would be really helpful. And I agree, the standard Defeate the Death Force missions can go uncatalogued. |
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Post by Death Eye on May 6, 2013 18:15:23 GMT
ok il do that. im thinking is we add pages for the fights. just that i dont think Defeat The Death Force fights are needed to be added though. Having info on each mission would be really helpful. And I agree, the standard Defeate the Death Force missions can go uncatalogued. I disagree, there are some highly significant things to be found in those missions (Metal Heroes, Cyber Heroes, Carrier Helicopters, Switching Ninjas, Demon Wings, etc.) and they all have relatively predictable patterns (the Japanese Wiki even has lists of all the groupings of random Borgs that can appear). I'm not going to try to dump the task on someone else, though, so I'll do it if nobody else wants to. (Though I really do need to start, you know, actually doing the things I say I'm going to do... Eh, I'm replaying the game repeatedly anyway, I can just figure it out as I go through.) |
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Post by Carigun on May 6, 2013 18:40:04 GMT
Having info on each mission would be really helpful. And I agree, the standard Defeate the Death Force missions can go uncatalogued. I disagree, there are some highly significant things to be found in those missions (Metal Heroes, Cyber Heroes, Carrier Helicopters, Switching Ninjas, Demon Wings, etc.) and they all have relatively predictable patterns (the Japanese Wiki even has lists of all the groupings of random Borgs that can appear). I'm not going to try to dump the task on someone else, though, so I'll do it if nobody else wants to. (Though I really do need to start, you know, actually doing the things I say I'm going to do... Eh, I'm replaying the game repeatedly anyway, I can just figure it out as I go through.) |
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Post by dillybar64 on May 6, 2013 21:37:40 GMT
I filled out the pages for: Time Bomber, Blue Striker, Normal Knight, and Copy Man. Cheeseoman has now blocked me from editing these pages. What is going on Cheesoman... I get this message "Reason given: If you think sections should be in a different order, discuss it instead of just changing things around with no explanation" ... But we have been discussing layout on this thread. I am experimenting with trying to minimize the white space here:  Please discuss things with ME before straight up blocking me. |
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Post by Carigun on May 6, 2013 21:44:19 GMT
ok i can see where you are coomming from dilly, the white space seems a bit much.
im thinking of a solution to make the table smaller. for the ammo thing > Ammo Lv 1/10
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Post by Manocheese on May 6, 2013 21:47:17 GMT
You're unblocked. The white space depends on your layout preferences. There's no extra space if you use the MonoBook layout:  |
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Post by dillybar64 on May 6, 2013 21:51:32 GMT
What is this layout preference stuff?
This is just how it appears on my laptop.
Well, I shouldn't just say my laptop.
I have been editing the wiki on a few other computers while mine has periodically had troubles.
It seems to be the default layout whenever I go there.
Even knowing about the layout stuff now, I am going to work on minimizing the white space so it looks nice for guests who are set to default to the same layout.
Please don't block people again without consulting them first.
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Post by Manocheese on May 6, 2013 22:10:44 GMT
I agree that it should look good in the default layout. The problem seems to be that the borg move box, the borg info box, and the photo box can't all be on the same line. It seems that there's no way to get rid of the photo box, so moving the borg move box down seems like the best solution. If we put the Description and "How to Get this Borg" sections above the borg move box, that should push is down somewhat, but not enough. We would probably have to move the analysis/strategy sections up as well. Another option would be to change the borg info box so that it's above the page instead of on the side. I'll experiment with that.
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Post by Stove on May 6, 2013 22:27:52 GMT
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Post by Manocheese on May 6, 2013 22:32:50 GMT
It was done by an anonymous user with the IP address 173.18.23.3. You can write something better if you like. I probably won't get to it for some time. |
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Post by dillybar64 on May 7, 2013 0:00:08 GMT
I agree that it should look good in the default layout. The problem seems to be that the borg move box, the borg info box, and the photo box can't all be on the same line. It seems that there's no way to get rid of the photo box, so moving the borg move box down seems like the best solution. If we put the Description and "How to Get this Borg" sections above the borg move box, that should push is down somewhat, but not enough. We would probably have to move the analysis/strategy sections up as well. Another option would be to change the borg info box so that it's above the page instead of on the side. I'll experiment with that. Yeah, the best solution is to have it Borg bio, strategy, moves, then how to get. I find it a little awkward that the movelist is below the strategy section, but we can't help that unless we find something else to put above it other than the borg's bio and where to get it. If anyone can think of a 3rd thing please let us know. Screencapped for great justice. This must be preserved for all time. |
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Post by Viroth on May 7, 2013 0:04:41 GMT
I'm not too sure how these kinds of articles should be dealt with. Honestly it seems they should just be cleared up until they can be fixed in the future.
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Post by Stove on May 7, 2013 3:08:54 GMT
It was done by an anonymous user with the IP address 173.18.23.3. You can write something better if you like. I probably won't get to it for some time. I may very well do that if I get the time after finals. At the very least It should be removed. Also what do you mean "this must be preserved?" o.O because I was blunt? I'm a blunt person. I either tell people how it is or say nothing. Considering one of my favorite borgs was given a crap article like that, I felt like I'd speak up. EDIT: Okay, fixed. EDIT2: If anyone for some reason was wondering why I asked who did that, it's because it sounds like something I would write.  |
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Post by Death Eye on May 7, 2013 3:20:01 GMT
I agree that it should look good in the default layout. The problem seems to be that the borg move box, the borg info box, and the photo box can't all be on the same line. It seems that there's no way to get rid of the photo box, so moving the borg move box down seems like the best solution. If we put the Description and "How to Get this Borg" sections above the borg move box, that should push is down somewhat, but not enough. We would probably have to move the analysis/strategy sections up as well. Another option would be to change the borg info box so that it's above the page instead of on the side. I'll experiment with that. Yeah, the best solution is to have it Borg bio, strategy, moves, then how to get. I find it a little awkward that the movelist is below the strategy section, but we can't help that unless we find something else to put above it other than the borg's bio and where to get it. If anyone can think of a 3rd thing please let us know. change the borg info box so that it's above the page instead of on the side. I feel like the ideal approach would be to have the image on the left side of the box, the info on the right in a column or two, and the entire box at the top of the article. Or at the very least that's what I think when I hear It was done by an anonymous user with the IP address 173.18.23.3. You can write something better if you like. I probably won't get to it for some time. I may very well do that if I get the time after finals. At the very least It should be removed. Also what do you mean "this must be preserved?" o.O because I was blunt? I'm a blunt person. I either tell people how it is or say nothing. Considering one of my favorite borgs was given a crap article like that, I felt like I'd speak up. I think he means the article itself, what with it being the most in-depth article on Wikia. |
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Post by Stove on May 7, 2013 3:22:08 GMT
Oh. Well I said no to that. :I
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Post by Manocheese on May 7, 2013 4:58:09 GMT
I agree that it's a little odd to have the move list below the strategy section, since the strategy section will probably refer to the borg's moves. I feel like the ideal approach would be to have the image on the left side of the box, the info on the right in a column or two, and the entire box at the top of the article. Yeah, I was thinking of something like this. I wrote a new template for it. Here's what a borg page would look like with the new template: gotchaforce.wikia.com/wiki/Test_BorgFeel free to comment on it. |
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Post by Manocheese on May 7, 2013 4:59:16 GMT
EDIT: Double post
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Post by Death Eye on May 7, 2013 6:25:40 GMT
I agree that it's a little odd to have the move list below the strategy section, since the strategy section will probably refer to the borg's moves. I feel like the ideal approach would be to have the image on the left side of the box, the info on the right in a column or two, and the entire box at the top of the article. Yeah, I was thinking of something like this. I wrote a new template for it. Here's what a borg page would look like with the new template: gotchaforce.wikia.com/wiki/Test_BorgFeel free to comment on it. It looks a bit weird with some of the rows being 2 lines because of individual characters, and if it's possible to do aesthetic color stuff with tables that aren't the old Borg Info Box that might be a good idea, but overall it looks good. The only potential problem I see, and I don't want to be all whinetacular "Waah, we have no room for a thing barely anyone will ever use and so we absolutely have to make some modification because the universe revolves around me" so I kind of feel weird even bringing it up, but if I ever actually figure out that whole Borg ID thing there's no way to put it in the table without breaking something or at least disrupting the symmetry. ( I mean, I'm probably never going to figure out that whole Borg ID thing anyway, but if I do, then yeah, that sentence might actually be relevant.) Also I still like Carigun's idea of having clickable things to show the different colors, but don't worry about that, it sounds complicated so I don't want to put it on anybody else to do that, if we can agree on whether or not to do it and how I'll deal with it myself once I learn how. (And no, I'm not suggesting this to make room for the Borg ID by rendering the "Has Alternate?" section redundant, I'm not that terrible of a person. I'm actually suggesting it because in the past few days I've run into about a dozen normal Copy Men and thought they were rare because I don't know whether or not crystal Copy Man's body glows rainbow-style and I want that to not be a thing other equally stupid people have to deal with. Also because why not?) |
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