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Post by Frozazen on Apr 28, 2015 15:48:45 GMT
"Boost Jump" is the term you're looking for, my friend  and "Air Jump" is the other one. If Orange Fighter/Blue Striker needed a change, it would probably be to their HP. However, I honestly think their low cost justifies that, seeing how their maneuverability and charge attack are top of the line. |
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Post by Stove on Apr 29, 2015 0:39:01 GMT
I still don't understand why Sigma 1 isn't the same tier as Sigma 2 when Sigma 1 is cheaper and doesn't lose or even have reduced mobility. All he loses is power, and when you can dodge for days that's not a big deal.
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Post by Frozazen on Apr 29, 2015 1:08:02 GMT
I still don't understand why Sigma 1 isn't the same tier as Sigma 2 when Sigma 1 is cheaper and doesn't lose or even have reduced mobility. All he loses is power, and when you can dodge for days that's not a big deal. I agree with you, and I'd totally make a new thread so that we can finally agree on a tier list (2v2 of course), but that'd require some organization that I don't have the time for atm. Why don't you just buff another borg in the meantime? I enjoy reading the ideas going on in this thread. I think it'd be interesting if Wind Valkyrie's fan could affect the trajectory of bombs and missiles. |
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Post by VerdantShade on Apr 29, 2015 23:29:04 GMT
Well I finally read the OP, so now I realize it can be mid-tier as well. Having the Akuma and Demon Samurai line gain more than just blade length from the number of defeated enemies. . . could make it a priority target given the rightly chosen horrible ideas - gaining HP+HP Max, gaining Attack Damage and Ammo for the ranged attacks, hopefully not mobility or jumps too. Now, I'm not even talking at every 1 soul, but still.
Make the Alpha Wings the Charge X attack, unleash them near simultaneously on a target. Putting the same kind of Anti-Air batteries on Antares as Sirius doesn't make him that much more powerful - especially since I think Sirius has a much higher ammo cap for their shared B attack - and Antares won't get a charge attack that wastes/unleashes all the weapons in one go anyways. As it is, the Alpha wings are fairly weak if you spread them out and take too long to pile up on a target - Oh sure, they can be more annoying than drones in the long run if you use enough of them, but the only way to get enough of them out is to use Hyper Mode and hope that they don't explode against a wall. (P.S. Infinite Ammo via Action Replay and Hyper Mode equals eye-bleeding lag.)
. . . Although if we're being technical about that whole Alpha Wings as a Charge Attack thing, I know that the Galactic Emperor releases his own palette swap of Alpha Wings (the model is based on one of the death borgs) automatically, even when under player control.
If I remember correctly, some entry or other said that Death Eyes were supposed to take over borgs. I think it was their description or whatever. Allow it to either grab onto an enemy borg or become a satellite/option for an allied borg - nearly useless on its own, potentially devastating if combined with an agile borg that won't get it killed. Of course, even as a satellite it's not like they're going to imitate every possible ranged weapon. . . Although, I did recently see a "Symbiote" idea instead, where attaching to an ally would give them some boost to health, but the Death Eye would survive the death of the other player. . . of course being a Death Eye it would be a bit helpless after that, but I think most borgs can benefit well enough from an extra 50+ hp and a free gun that they don't have to control.
Hm. . . Alien Insect. I remember him being rather nice, the main Insect Borg that was useable, but he was pretty slow. His ability to lessen damage of projectiles was nice, not to mention that shield, but he was too much of a Mighty Glacier. . . without the Mighty? IIRC. So were his projectiles, actually, and even though they exploded and were easy to overlook in the heat of battle, they were also really easy to shoot down with other projectiles. Perhaps an increased waling and dash speed and increased ammo capacity/refill. . . I honestly don't remember ever having the chance to melee using him. I think I could do better with Normal Knight, although perhaps I simply didn't test him before I lost my data and lost interest in Gotcha.
Enable actual controls for Galactic Emperor. . . yeah.
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Post by Carigun on Nov 8, 2015 0:22:06 GMT
***Top Tier*** Neo G Red -500 G Black -600 Anubis Wing/Garuda -750 Proto Mars -900 Proto Red -850 Cyber Ninja -640 Sapphire Knight -630 G Red -300 Gold Hero -420 Ruby Knight -590 Beam Wing Red -400 Death Borg Sigma II -180 Cyber Girl -440 Blade Wing -650 Eagle Robot -1000 Flame Dragon -1500 Blizzard Dragon -1550 Plasma Dragon -1600 Planet Hero -530 ***High Tier*** Proto Atlas -850 Beam Gunman -650 Barrier Girl -500 Cyber Girl Hyper -620 Beam Wing Blue -350 Command Girl -330 Teleport Ninja -400 Accel. Ninja -380 Panther Robot -1000 Cyber Girl Super -590 Star Hero -520 Dark Knight -610 Victory Baron -850 ***Mid Tier*** Flame Ninja -590 Proto Blue -800 Imperial Knight -550 Cyber Hero -450 Demon Wing -610 Victory King -1000 Death Borg Sigma -100 Death Borg Lambda II -150 Ring Valkrie -280 Cosmic Dragon -1700 Proto Eagle -850 Panther Vehicle -620 ***Low Tier*** Titan Robot -1000 Drill Robot -500 Beam Tank -780 Jet Hero -350 Chrono Samurai -600 Death Wing -550 Blue Striker -200 Orange Fighter -200 Victory Duke -850 Wire Girl - 220 Ghost Knight -590 Elemental Knight -540 Proto King -800 Hammer Knight -450 Proto Titan -800 Proto Panther -800 Powered Gunman -350 Tao Master -300 Time Bomber -220 ***Undecided*** 5) Slow Valkrie -350 3) Sirius -1000 4) Antares -1300 2) Gatling Gunner -420 1) Fire Dragon -1000 1) Ice Dragon -1050 1) Thunder Dragon -1100 well for the undecided ones, 1) put Fire Dragon, Ice Dragon and Thunder Dragon in High/Mid tier, more edging towards Mid on the account of there dives, as they are not terrible borgs but at the same time not grate borgs either. 2) gatling gunner is pretty decent if used correctly but not top class, id say high. 3) Sirius, debatable one between high and top, on the account that it cannot move im gonna say high as it has 2k HP and very strong shots, max shot can leave you vulnerable if not used correctly but i tend to use it during the hyper mode so i have ammo afterwards. 4) Antares, again debatable one between high and top, but im gonna say high for same reasons as sirius. 5) Slow Valkrie, im gonna avoid giving it a teir as i only used it like once.
on topic Borg: Blue Striker Change 1: give it a barrier shield, just like the one on Barrier Girl i think thats enough |
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Post by dillybar64 on Dec 17, 2015 2:20:14 GMT
One of the bores that needs the most help is Death Wing.
Sure, he's pretty fast, but he's big, brittle, and costs a ton to put on your team.
The easy fix is to give him more HP or a higher defense score.
But the more interesting idea is: what if he was given a shield?
He'd love to straight up block incoming attacks, and as the only flying unit with a shield he'd have an interesting play style.
The shield, plus some minor stat fixes, and I think he'd be a pretty neat borg again.
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Post by thadudette on Dec 21, 2015 6:43:31 GMT
^Would that mean he could just stand in a corner and spam charge B and be almost invincible to projectiles? :3 (I haven't played with a lot of shield borgs to know how much their shields block ... ) Borg: Blue Striker Change 1: give it a barrier shield, just like the one on Barrier Girl i think thats enough Whoa, that would make it the greatest Annoyer borg of all time :3 (here I am using Pokemon language ... xD) |
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