njayhuang
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Post by njayhuang on Nov 28, 2013 4:23:50 GMT
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Post by Death Eye on Nov 28, 2013 5:55:31 GMT
That's pretty funny. Kind of makes you wonder how on earth anyone could've found it, though.
EDIT: *notices who made the video* Wow, I'm an idiot.
So now that I'm aware that I'm conversing with the person who found it, how did you find it?
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thadudette
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Post by thadudette on Nov 28, 2013 6:51:45 GMT
The ICBM on the map goes round and round, round and round, round and round... How did you end up getting stuck like that, anyways? :3
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njayhuang
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Post by njayhuang on Nov 28, 2013 8:40:30 GMT
I was farming EXP on the ICBM mission so I stuck a bunch of low cost borgs at the end. Eventually I got bored and let it run by itself.
So three things had to happen: -the ICBMs have to detonate unevenly such that there is only ICBM on the field (so they don't run into each other and kill me before I have a chance to reach the spot) -I have to spawn a Death Bomb (duh) -and the game has to randomly spawn the Death Bomb facing the right direction (because I didn't touch the controller).
Then because the ICBM AI sucks at hitting small targets, the Death Bomb just floats toward the crack and the ICBM circles around it. But it's practically almost useless. Death Bomb has no way to attack, and it's not often that you're up against an enemy that can't hit a stationary target. So the only use for that is to stall for time on this specific mission.
Of course, if you did it in VS by with a force full of Death Bombs and a pacifist player 2, you could find the spot much more easily especially since you can control the bomb and the camera.
So my uneducated guess on the actual physics behind the exploit is that the bump on the floor is just high enough that it touches the back part of the bomb but not the detonation hitbox, which is the part at the front. And since the invisible wall of the stage doesn't count as a solid, I can run into it and not blow up.
You can do something similar happen if you fire solid projectiles at the ICBMs: Most of the time the projectile will collide with the detonation hitbox and explode, but sometimes the projectile will graze it just enough to register damage but not enough to detonate. A fun one to do is Neo G Crash; it's so strong that the ICBM usually dies before the sword touches the detonation hitbox.
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Post by Frozazen on Dec 1, 2013 0:06:09 GMT
would roach be a better option for this glitch? maybe death eye, too. at least they can hurt the Death ICBM
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njayhuang
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Post by njayhuang on Dec 1, 2013 0:19:47 GMT
The exploit I was trying to show is that Death Bomb cannot physically hit the ground. It's not really a glitch, more of an oversight in map design.
But the ICBM circling around can be done with any normal borg on any patch of open area. The ICBM boosts away as soon as you attack, so Death Eye/Roach is actually really bad at killing them; it's much faster to just walk near an obstacle and let it blow itself up.
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Post by herpanda on Dec 1, 2013 20:53:08 GMT
The exploit I was trying to show is that Death Bomb cannot physically hit the ground. *Everyone mesmerized at ICBM flying in circles instead*
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Post by Spike on Dec 4, 2013 7:42:11 GMT
..... Wait, were talking bout the Death Bomb? You, as far as it being unable to hit the ground goes, I wonder if there are any other potential spots like that. I mean, you could just make a team of like 30 Death Bombs and then operate 2 teams of them in a Vs mode, just for the sake of experimenting.
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