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Post by dillybar64 on Apr 29, 2013 21:12:25 GMT
I've been looking over the big mech bots lately and trying them out again.
Machine Blue is better than I remember.
Victory Duke is more fun than I remember.
But often I will see people slandering Panther Robot on this forum, and to be honest I don't really understand why.
Can someone explain to me why everyone is so adverse to him?
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Post by Stove on Apr 29, 2013 21:16:38 GMT
I too have wondered this. I love Panther robot, and I think I'm one of the few defenders of him. He's probably my favorite transformer actually.
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Post by Death Eye on Apr 29, 2013 21:48:29 GMT
I thought "people" was me and only me.  In any case, Vehicle form only has some bullets and the Panther Beam that you can't spam because it's a charge attack on Robot, and Robot form has the typical awkward melee attacks of large Machines, those utterly atrocious eye bullets that do absolutely nothing good, and the rather underwhelming Wheel Attack. I think that about sums it up. |
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Post by dillybar64 on Apr 29, 2013 22:01:01 GMT
I thought "people" was me and only me. Really? Perhaps I am misremembering. From what I recall Carigun also didn't really like him that much (searches the comment up) On the topic of the big mech borgs Carigun passes over Panther Robot like it is taboo. Well i do like them as they are fun to use.. Eagle Robot is a disappointment as he dose not have the twin mega beam canon/shot. I like the power of Titan but would be happier with proto. panther um yea moving on victory king has everything undercontrol. fighting a jet transform in to one fight a dragon turn into the jet fighting a ninja robo and so on. I put Beam Gunner and Death Saucer on top of Victory King. what dose that come under |
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Post by Carigun on Apr 29, 2013 22:19:12 GMT
I thought "people" was me and only me. Really? Perhaps I am misremembering. From what I recall Carigun also didn't really like him that much (searches the comment up) On the topic of the big mech borgs Carigun passes over Panther Robot like it is taboo. Well i do like them as they are fun to use.. Eagle Robot is a disappointment as he dose not have the twin mega beam canon/shot. I like the power of Titan but would be happier with proto. panther um yea moving on victory king has everything undercontrol. fighting a jet transform in to one fight a dragon turn into the jet fighting a ninja robo and so on. I put Beam Gunner and Death Saucer on top of Victory King. what dose that come under
borgs that always makes the VS side
- Panther Robot (i just dont like it in story)
- Death Arc (im ok with it in story when 2 v me as i an follow XLXLXLXL and so on)
- Sirus (im ok with it in story when 2 v me as i an follow XLXLXLXL and so on)
- Death Saucer (fails not to make any side with 1000+ GFE)
- Proto Eagle (dislike the robo as it dosent have the twin beam shot thing)
- Victory King (2nd best borg in the game (if you take copy man into account) )
- Titan Robot (unlimited javlin shots)
- Flame Ninja (extreamly hot punches)
- Beam Gunner (Bye bye Kei)
- Machine Red (just an ok all rounder)
- Cyber Mars (same as Red)
- Machine Blue (its a f------ walking tank)
- Blue Strike (a good little jet)
i dropped Cyber Atlas as I dont get on with the tracker shots
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Post by Death Eye on Apr 29, 2013 22:21:20 GMT
I thought "people" was me and only me. Really? Perhaps I am misremembering. From what I recall Carigun also didn't really like him that much (searches the comment up) On the topic of the big mech borgs Carigun passes over Panther Robot like it is taboo. Well i do like them as they are fun to use.. Eagle Robot is a disappointment as he dose not have the twin mega beam canon/shot. I like the power of Titan but would be happier with proto. panther um yea moving on victory king has everything undercontrol. fighting a jet transform in to one fight a dragon turn into the jet fighting a ninja robo and so on. I put Beam Gunner and Death Saucer on top of Victory King. what dose that come under Yeah, I saw that, but unless I changed his mind about it he doesn't actually have a problem with it. 1: Victory King (Tank + Jet + Robot + 1000 Cost + 450HP = Cheap)
2: Victory Duke (Tank + Robot + 850 cost + 420HP = Cheap) (Tie with Barron)
2: Victory Barron (Jet + Robot + 850 cost + 380 HP = Cheap) (Tie with Duke)
4: Titan Robot (Tank + Robot + Unlmited Javelin shot + 1000 cost + 450HP = good value)
5: Proto Eagle (Robot + Twin Beam Shot + 850 cost + 380HP = better value than robo)
6: Panther Robot (Panther Vehicle + Robot + Unlimited Twin Wheel Shot + 1000 Cost + 450HP = Great borg)
7: Proto Titan (Robot + 1 Javlin shot + 800 Cost + 420HP = ok but not as good as titan)
8: Proto Panther (Robot + 1 twin wheel shot + 800 Cost + 400HP = reasonably good borg but not the best)
9: Proto King (Robot + 800 Cost + 400HP = reasonable but not as good of a deal compered to V.King)
10: Eagle Robot (Robot + Jet + 1000 Cost - Twin Beam shot + 400HP = a waste of 1000 Cost)
Oh, also I'm trying Panther Robot again right now. In addition to the previous problems I mentioned his neutral melee and the Wheel Attack are both really laggy. So Robot form can only melee awkwardly or use the Wheel Attack and get shot, while Vehicle form can only fire really slow and inaccurate bullets or wait two seconds to fire the Panther Beam. And since Wheel Attack's a charge attack on Robot it can't even combo with it like Proto. It's pretty depressing. But I do have to admit side-dash->transform->go flying relatively fast 10 feet sideways in Vehicle form is pretty cool, if entirely useless. |
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Post by njayhuang on Apr 29, 2013 22:22:19 GMT
Like Death Eye said, those eye bullets are pretty bad. Panther Robot is actually not that if you use him as a high HP and high cost Panther Vehicle with the ability to melee enemies that get too close. But when compared to the other large Robots, a lot of them outclass Panther Robot.
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Post by grainbow on May 1, 2013 20:38:31 GMT
I don't like panther robot.
I prefer cougars.
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Post by dillybar64 on May 6, 2013 1:16:38 GMT
Like Death Eye said, those eye bullets are pretty bad. Actually, I have found that those eye bullets are really good for blowing up solid projectiles. If you are against a unit (like Claw Robot or whatever) who shoots missiles, the eye bullets effectively remove the option of a ranged assault. |
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Post by Death Eye on May 6, 2013 3:14:33 GMT
Like Death Eye said, those eye bullets are pretty bad. Actually, I have found that those eye bullets are really good for blowing up solid projectiles. If you are against a unit (like Claw Robot or whatever) who shoots missiles, the eye bullets effectively remove the option of a ranged assault. Actually, having used Proto Panther quite a bit over the past few days, I can say if you're concerned about a long-range assault you're doing it wrong. See, the reason the eye bullets - and Robot form as a whole, for that matter - seem so bad is that you instinctively think "Oh hey, big robot, time to spam some beams" when it's actually more like a really bulky melee Borg. The eye bullets are meant to get a bit of extra damage in while you approach, not to be spammed at long range, and they fill that role pretty well. And the Wheel Attack, in addition to being pretty good for combos, is actually a highly underrated scope weapon, throw that thing through a Power Scope and suddenly you're one-shotting things almost as well as a Titan Robot. Granted, none of this makes it better than, say, Proto Eagle, but it's not completely unusable. (Note that I'm talking about Proto Panther here, I haven't been using Panther Robot because I'm leveling up my Protos so Panther Robot is still the worst large Machine ever until further notice.) (And don't even give me that crap about how I'm wrong and Robot form's totally still meant for spamming purposes, no decent spamming Borg can't fire its weapon at the target while retreating.) (Also don't try to tell me that a long-range assault is even more of a concern if it's a melee Borg, if the opponent's constantly trying to stay away that's the one time you actually can spam the eye bullets since you're constantly approaching. Plus how many ranged Borgs are faster than a large Machine, honestly?) |
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Post by Stove on May 6, 2013 3:20:20 GMT
I don't like panther robot. I prefer cougars. XD this guy is great! Why didn't you join sooner? Anyway, I find that panther's wheels are more accurate than Titan's Javelins, and still do very respectable damage. And Titan has those fail eye bullets too you know DE. |
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Post by Death Eye on May 6, 2013 3:26:21 GMT
Anyway, I find that panther's wheels are more accurate than Titan's Javelins, and still do very respectable damage. And Titan has those fail eye bullets too you know DE. Yeah, Titan just gets the seal of approval from me because the Javelin Shot fills a certain niche, namely the Fortress-killing one, and Tank form has hilariously fast beams you can actually spam. For general use in Robot form the same stuff applies. |
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Post by Stove on May 6, 2013 3:29:48 GMT
I recall the wheels working just as well. Maybe not.
Only reason I like Titan is instant beam reloading via transforming.
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Post by dillybar64 on May 6, 2013 3:52:32 GMT
I'm not saying he should be played ranged.
I am just saying that his eye pebbles are good at getting rid of pesky solid projectiles.
Which, for some robots will force them to melee you (which, as you have noted, is where Panther Robot is strongest)
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Post by Death Eye on May 6, 2013 3:53:23 GMT
I recall the wheels working just as well. Maybe not. Nope. The Javelin Shot gets stuck in Antares, while the Wheel Attack appears to go through. I'm trying very hard to think of an explanation for that that makes sense, but it's not going well. Also whoa, name change out of freakin' nowhere. I'm not saying he should be played ranged. I am just saying that his eye pebbles are good at getting rid of pesky solid projectiles. Which, for some robots will force them to melee you (which, as you have noted, is where Panther Robot is strongest) Makes sense. It's probably a viable way of playing Panther defensively, it just didn't occur to me because I don't typically fight defensively. |
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Post by Viroth on May 6, 2013 23:24:50 GMT
The 1000 GF cost is why I never use him, much better spent on other cost effective borgs or a fortress.
To me Panther Robot plays a bit clunky and overall doesn't live up to the large cost. Also his color scheme is pretty unappealing imo.
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Post by dillybar64 on May 7, 2013 0:03:18 GMT
Also his color scheme is pretty unappealing imo. Get a gold one. He turns into a freaking car. Pimp that ride out. Solid gold = great color scheme. |
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Post by Viroth on May 7, 2013 0:14:44 GMT
Also his color scheme is pretty unappealing imo. Get a gold one. He turns into a freaking car. Pimp that ride out. Solid gold = great color scheme.
If I had a gold one I'd probably destroy it.  |
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Post by Stove on May 7, 2013 3:24:33 GMT
Also his color scheme is pretty unappealing imo. Get a gold one. He turns into a freaking car. Pimp that ride out. Solid gold = great color scheme. You could just get a gold Panther Vehicle... Also, I like Green/Red. |
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Post by Death Eye on May 7, 2013 3:28:21 GMT
Get a gold one. He turns into a freaking car. Pimp that ride out. Solid gold = great color scheme. You could just get a gold Panther Vehicle... And it would be more useful. |
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