thadudette
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Post by thadudette on Dec 3, 2013 5:42:22 GMT
How To Get The Most Out Of Phoenix Dragon
A guide by njayhuang. 1. Before choosing a force on the force select screen, press X to bring up force edit. 2. Move your cursor over the Phoenix Dragon in your force and enter the following button combination: A, B. 3. The Phoenix Dragon has now been transmuted into 800 extra GF Energy that you can use for any borg. Protip: You can even use the 800 GFE to put Phoenix Dragon back on your force and repeat step 2 to get another 800 GFE. The sass, it is overwhelming!  Cosmic Dragon. He's a Dragon, and he's cool, with more health and a projectile-absorbing black hole...but he sucks. His B attack ruins the purpose of a Dragon's B attack - to hit below them and to align themselves to use their nukebreath. Cosmic's B-Attack does neither of these, therefore he is inferior. SO THAT'S HOW YOU USE A DRAGON!  *cricket cricket* ...I did mention I have no idea how to use any of them ...  |
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Post by Spike on Dec 3, 2013 7:12:19 GMT
Cosmic Dragon's Black Hole is supposed to suck. How else do you expect a black hole to work?
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Lame jokes aside, Phoenix' issue is that it's too damn slow for it's own good.
As for me, I'd probably say Tar Diver. Borg is cool as hell, but it's just not my style. Plus, I'm rather awkward when it comes to playing as Divers.
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Post by Metal on Dec 3, 2013 15:46:20 GMT
How To Get The Most Out Of Phoenix Dragon
A guide by njayhuang. 1. Before choosing a force on the force select screen, press X to bring up force edit. 2. Move your cursor over the Phoenix Dragon in your force and enter the following button combination: A, B. 3. The Phoenix Dragon has now been transmuted into 800 extra GF Energy that you can use for any borg. Protip: You can even use the 800 GFE to put Phoenix Dragon back on your force and repeat step 2 to get another 800 GFE. Idk how i didnt see this before thaddie quoted it, but it is possibly the greatest thing i have read about phoenix dragon ever XD |
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Post by Stove on Dec 4, 2013 4:00:22 GMT
How To Get The Most Out Of Phoenix Dragon
A guide by njayhuang. 1. Before choosing a force on the force select screen, press X to bring up force edit. 2. Move your cursor over the Phoenix Dragon in your force and enter the following button combination: A, B. 3. The Phoenix Dragon has now been transmuted into 800 extra GF Energy that you can use for any borg. Protip: You can even use the 800 GFE to put Phoenix Dragon back on your force and repeat step 2 to get another 800 GFE. The sass, it is overwhelming! Cosmic Dragon. He's a Dragon, and he's cool, with more health and a projectile-absorbing black hole...but he sucks. His B attack ruins the purpose of a Dragon's B attack - to hit below them and to align themselves to use their nukebreath. Cosmic's B-Attack does neither of these, therefore he is inferior. SO THAT'S HOW YOU USE A DRAGON! *cricket cricket* ...I did mention I have no idea how to use any of them ... Dragons really are just a few simple rules. 1. B-Attack is to hit where breath can't (below), to use while waiting for breath to recharge, and to align a dragon for a breath attack. That's it. 2. Dragons should ALWAYS be in the air. The breath attack turns faster and you aren't as vulnerable. 3. Dragons have very long airtime. Both of its shots when used while boosting give the dragon lift without extra cost to its booster. Need to raise up? Spam jump-breath. One breath will usually lift you to the top of a level. Want to move elsewhere? Do an air-dash breath attack. 4. Breath attack is what makes dragons good. It OHKO's Garuda, something not even Ultimate Cannon can claim. 5. Dragons are stupidly strong. Against humans they're often worth double their cost. Against AI they destroy anything not named Metal Hero. (Who sometimes OHKO you with a lucky shot.) 6. Stomping is almost completely useless. You should be in the air anyway. 7. Here are a list of borgs that can possibly take you on solo and win; Sirius Metal Hero Death Borg Sigma 2 Cyber Ninja A large dragon. Combined Borgs Sekhmet Witch (as odd as it sounds, Sekhmet is a dragon's worst nightmare.) That's really it. |
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Post by Metal on Dec 4, 2013 4:10:10 GMT
The sass, it is overwhelming! SO THAT'S HOW YOU USE A DRAGON! *cricket cricket* ...I did mention I have no idea how to use any of them ... Dragons really are just a few simple rules. 1. B-Attack is to hit where breath can't (below), to use while waiting for breath to recharge, and to align a dragon for a breath attack. That's it. 2. Dragons should ALWAYS be in the air. The breath attack turns faster and you aren't as vulnerable. 3. Dragons have very long airtime. Both of its shots when used while boosting give the dragon lift without extra cost to its booster. Need to raise up? Spam jump-breath. One breath will usually lift you to the top of a level. Want to move elsewhere? Do an air-dash breath attack. 4. Breath attack is what makes dragons good. It OHKO's Garuda, something not even Ultimate Cannon can claim. 5. Dragons are stupidly strong. Against humans they're often worth double their cost. Against AI they destroy anything not named Metal Hero. (Who sometimes OHKO you with a lucky shot.) 6. Stomping is almost completely useless. You should be in the air anyway. 7. Here are a list of borgs that can possibly take you on solo and win; Sirius Metal Hero Death Borg Sigma 2 Cyber Ninja A large dragon. Combined Borgs Sekhmet Witch (as odd as it sounds, Sekhmet is a dragon's worst nightmare.) That's really it. I never am in the air XD and i dont typically die when using my thunder dragon.(or is plasma the big one? Idr) |
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Post by Death Eye on Dec 4, 2013 5:13:33 GMT
7. Here are a list of borgs that can possibly take you on solo and win; Sirius Only if you're using a small Dragon, that matchup is entirely about damage output and any large Dragon wins it easily. Possibly, yes, but pretty much only if you get caught off guard, the instakill only works at ridiculously close range so all you have to do there is fly a short distance away and you'll probably be able to take the hit. Not sure how vulnerable Cyber Ninja is when he lands to recharge his Boost Jump, but both of these are probably entirely possible. As are Lambda II, Sigma, and Lambda. Easily, but not without also dying. Just as easily, but without the death. Never actually thought of that one, myself. You can probably kill it before it gets a chance to be an issue nine times out of ten, though. Or just use the Cosmic Dragon, it's immune to more things and I'm pretty sure Sekhmet's one of them. |
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Post by Metal on Dec 4, 2013 5:28:24 GMT
7. Here are a list of borgs that can possibly take you on solo and win; Sirius Only if you're using a small Dragon, that matchup is entirely about damage output and any large Dragon wins it easily. Possibly, yes, but pretty much only if you get caught off guard, the instakill only works at ridiculously close range so all you have to do there is fly a short distance away and you'll probably be able to take the hit. Not sure how vulnerable Cyber Ninja is when he lands to recharge his Boost Jump, but both of these are probably entirely possible. As are Lambda II, Sigma, and Lambda. Easily, but not without also dying. Just as easily, but without the death. Never actually thought of that one, myself. You can probably kill it before it gets a chance to be an issue nine times out of ten, though. Or just use the Cosmic Dragon, it's immune to more things and I'm pretty sure Sekhmet's one of them. Eh,idt sekhmet affects the big dragons to much, ive used them and got hit by her spell dozens of times and if my dragon shrank i couldnt tell. They are also immune to switching places with a switching ninja. I guess they are too big  |
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Post by Spike on Dec 4, 2013 7:52:28 GMT
4. Breath attack is what makes dragons good. It OHKO's Garuda, something not even Ultimate Cannon can claim. Because said breath attack multi-hits. Ultimate Cannon fires a fixed amount of damage. Multi hitters will beat fixed damage every single time. Like, say for example, Garuda's DEF is 5. Cannon has SHT of 10; This only does 5 damage. Flame Dragon has a SHT of 6, but this hits anywhere from 10 to 20 times; This does 10 to 20 damage. /obvious |
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Post by Death Eye on Dec 4, 2013 8:20:49 GMT
4. Breath attack is what makes dragons good. It OHKO's Garuda, something not even Ultimate Cannon can claim. Because said breath attack multi-hits. Ultimate Cannon fires a fixed amount of damage. Multi hitters will beat fixed damage every single time. Like, say for example, Garuda's DEF is 5. Cannon has SHT of 10; This only does 5 damage. Flame Dragon has a SHT of 6, but this hits anywhere from 10 to 20 times; This does 10 to 20 damage. /obvious I kind of wished you had just dropped mind-blowing damage calculation insight on all our heads, but by that logic Fortresses would be actually invincible. But aside from that you're basically right, the Cannon does ridiculous damage per hit but the target gets invincibility frames quick enough that some of the bigger stuff can survive, whereas the breath can get a lot more hits before that happens. |
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Post by Spike on Dec 4, 2013 8:42:01 GMT
I kind of wished you had just dropped mind-blowing damage calculation insight on all our heads, but by that logic Fortresses would be actually invincible. Hence the "/obvious", because we all basically know that. And Fortresses don't count, since part of a Borg's DEF is also it's HP, which is why Fortress Borgs aren't invincible, despite their giant DEF. It's partially due to the fact one cannot deal 0 damage, except if it's blocked like with a shield or something. In fact, no Borg is literally invincible. ... 'Cept for maybe Sigma II in the hands on Manocheese, but that's different. But aside from that you're basically right, the Cannon does ridiculous damage per hit but the target gets invincibility frames quick enough that some of the bigger stuff can survive, whereas the breath can get a lot more hits before that happens. I've only ever seen GE enter the invincible frame from a breath attack(Strange, isn't it?). Everything else just seems to sit there and take it. |
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Post by Death Eye on Dec 4, 2013 17:56:13 GMT
But aside from that you're basically right, the Cannon does ridiculous damage per hit but the target gets invincibility frames quick enough that some of the bigger stuff can survive, whereas the breath can get a lot more hits before that happens. I've only ever seen GE enter the invincible frame from a breath attack(Strange, isn't it?). Everything else just seems to sit there and take it. That's because you have to hit it with two of them in quick succession and there aren't a lot of things that can even survive one. Cyber Atlas can (barely) so if you hit it with two of them the second one will do hardly any damage and send it flying. |
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Post by Metal on Dec 4, 2013 18:26:25 GMT
Eh. Ive sent plenty of borgs into invincible frames with breath attack. Just breath them into a wall and they ricochete invicibly.
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megatonrobot
Dragon Fan
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Post by megatonrobot on Dec 5, 2013 22:40:49 GMT
(Everyone's talking about dragons and I'm awkwardly breaking the conversation here but...) I think Switching Ninja just became my second favourite borg of all time!  |
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Post by Stove on Dec 6, 2013 3:35:13 GMT
2nd to megaton robot, obviously.
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Post by Spike on Dec 6, 2013 7:45:59 GMT
2nd to megaton robot, obviously. Cuz' Megaton is pimp. |
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Post by Metal on Dec 6, 2013 23:25:40 GMT
I relized that i rather enjoy imperial knight. He looks cool, he fights in a cool manner, he has two shields. Which means if used right he may never take damage. But then theres the whole... oh yea, hes a melee borg who doesnt auto lock his b attacks.... crap i suck without autolock. So i rarely use him.
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Post by Spike on Dec 7, 2013 5:20:44 GMT
Imperial Knight can, basically, do an infinite slash combo, though O,o
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Post by Stove on Dec 8, 2013 4:54:06 GMT
Imperial Knight can, basically, do an infinite slash combo, though O,o Except the opponent gets knocked back after 8 hits. |
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Post by Metal on Dec 8, 2013 5:35:25 GMT
Imperial Knight can, basically, do an infinite slash combo, though O,o Except the opponent gets knocked back after 8 hits. Im assuming the way to do this is some combination of b attacks and x attacks, followed by a dash attack to break the combo and then repeating so that you dont use a combo finisher with x. However, 1. Im not that good with melee borgs (sans metal hero) and 2. Insert Steves valid point here. |
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Post by Spike on Dec 8, 2013 6:52:50 GMT
Imperial Knight can, basically, do an infinite slash combo, though O,o Except the opponent gets knocked back after 8 hits. That, or the inevitable invincibility frame. ....Works better on Dragon Borgs, though. |
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