Pokemon X and Y

[Stove]

So, I can't be the only one who thinks that Sycamore is the best professor of them all.

And that theme...
THAT THEME
It's just so...suave.



Also...go to Couramine City, and in the area with the gym, go down towards the exit of the city, then go to the 2nd house on the right. Talk to the guy in there who asks you if you want to hear a song.
It might sounds a bit familiar.

[Metal]

Naw son oak is the best ever. He cant even remember his own grandsons name. Best prof ever.

Sycamore is mos def the suavest though. (I doubt that sentence is even remotely grammatically correct...)

I am glad nintendo finally let you battle a prof too, because they have toyed with the idea since gen 1.

And he does technically give you two starters so he is the most pro.prof ever. But i gotta go with oak, because he was the first prof to introduce me to pokemon.

[Stove]

Nov 21, 2013 4:47:03 GMT Metal said:

Naw son oak is the best ever. He cant even remember his own grandsons name. Best prof ever.

Sycamore is mos def the suavest though. (I doubt that sentence is even remotely grammatically correct...)

I am glad nintendo finally let you battle a prof too, because they have toyed with the idea since gen 1.

And he does technically give you two starters so he is the most pro.prof ever. But i gotta go with oak, because he was the first prof to introduce me to pokemon.

Your reasoning is purely nostalgia.

[Metal]

Actually i think juniper is prolly my favorite prof. She is at least involved in your quest.
Not that sycamore wasnt, oak birch and elm just stay in the lab not doing anything. Well the occaisional phone call with the whole next plot point. But otherwise not much.

Oh and the guy from sinnoh? Rowan? Yea that sounds right, he didnt do much either.

Like i said, syccy is cool, just not my fav.


Also the sushi restraunt that is for champions only, goodness that joker is expensive! $500,000? Better be the best sushi...nee best meal my trainer has ever eaten ever.

[Indigo]

Anyone have a hidden ability Ditto?

And Steve, do you still need that Froakie?

And... I'm changing Kecleon's moveset. I actually had a decent run in a battle, he tricked a physical Pokemon, survived the incoming attack, and then I spammed Recover till they died of burn. It was their last Pokemon... But yeah, it did shut them down. But it's too situational. And besides, Gallade learns Will-O-Wisp...

I'm gonna try an Assault Vest build. He has an Sp. Def nature. And I'll give him Thundershock and Flamethrower and stuff. He'll be an Sp. Tank wildcard with Protean... But I'm not sure what to EV train. Could he still use Sp. Def? Will training Defense let him survive regular melee attacks? Should I raise both if those, or just one along Sp. Attack?

So... Protean Kecleon and Greninja, and Imposter Ditto, and perhaps Zoroark. The ultimate wildcard team that can be ready against anything! Heliolisk possibly, with his coverage and gekigan beam (Normal gem'd hyper beam), and Gallade just because. Or Scyther with his awesome eviolite defenses to stand against many enemies and Sword Dance sweep. Man, I wish Gallade was as good as Scyther.

[Metal]

Eh, clax i feel like your problem here is your conflicted because you cant make the ultimate team out of pokemon you like.

Fear not though. Because with eighteen types, you cant make an ultimate team. Sure you can have coverages and resistances and offenses against most of those types, but your gonna have a weakness somewhere. (Unless you cheat and make a team of wonder guard sableyes. But thatd be super cheap and beneath you) its just the name of the game, your team isnt gonna win em all. (Unless it contains yveltal, because even though it isnt a priority move oblivion wing hits like one. Stupid legendary, so cheap) *ahem* just make a team you enjoy using and that has potential for things?

Or maybe thats what your trying to do?

Idk it just seems like your frustrated with it.

Also gallade is good, and (possibly?) Better than scyther if it didnt have eviolite.

[Stove]

Nov 23, 2013 7:46:20 GMT Indigo said:

Anyone have a hidden ability Ditto?

And Steve, do you still need that Froakie?

And... I'm changing Kecleon's moveset. I actually had a decent run in a battle, he tricked a physical Pokemon, survived the incoming attack, and then I spammed Recover till they died of burn. It was their last Pokemon... But yeah, it did shut them down. But it's too situational. And besides, Gallade learns Will-O-Wisp...

I'm gonna try an Assault Vest build. He has an Sp. Def nature. And I'll give him Thundershock and Flamethrower and stuff. He'll be an Sp. Tank wildcard with Protean... But I'm not sure what to EV train. Could he still use Sp. Def? Will training Defense let him survive regular melee attacks? Should I raise both if those, or just one along Sp. Attack?

So... Protean Kecleon and Greninja, and Imposter Ditto, and perhaps Zoroark. The ultimate wildcard team that can be ready against anything! Heliolisk possibly, with his coverage and gekigan beam (Normal gem'd hyper beam), and Gallade just because. Or Scyther with his awesome eviolite defenses to stand against many enemies and Sword Dance sweep. Man, I wish Gallade was as good as Scyther.

Yeah, I still need that Froakie. I just need to find my game cartridge.

[Indigo]

Kecleon solo'd a Pokemon! I'm so proud... I switched to a 3-Sp.-Attacks and Sucker Punch build with Assault Vest. My friend uses a Nidoking as an Sp. Attacker. Sheer Force and Life Orb. He hit Kecle-kun with a STAB Sludge Bomb, EV trained and buffed by the ability and item, and Kecleon lost just barely over half his HP. Kecleon Ice Beamed, and then Sucker Punched to take Nidoking out.

My Kecleon has no EV training at all, either. All things considered (like his depressing HP and Sp. Attack), that's not too shabby. If I EV trained Sp. Def, it would likely have meant I could take 3 of those buffed Sludge Bombs. I understand Nidoking's not amazing, but there's the EV difference, and Nidoking has decent defenses and good HP.

Assault Vest is also just borderline silly, but it really gives Kecleon a chance to be useful. A versatile Protean attacker that tanks Sp. Attacks.

[Metal]

Nov 24, 2013 10:34:29 GMT Indigo said:

Kecleon solo'd a Pokemon! I'm so proud... I switched to a 3-Sp.-Attacks and Sucker Punch build with Assault Vest. My friend uses a Nidoking as an Sp. Attacker. Sheer Force and Life Orb. He hit Kecle-kun with a STAB Sludge Bomb, EV trained and buffed by the ability and item, and Kecleon lost just barely over half his HP. Kecleon Ice Beamed, and then Sucker Punched to take Nidoking out.

My Kecleon has no EV training at all, either. All things considered (like his depressing HP and Sp. Attack), that's not too shabby. If I EV trained Sp. Def, it would likely have meant I could take 3 of those buffed Sludge Bombs. I understand Nidoking's not amazing, but there's the EV difference, and Nidoking has decent defenses and good HP.

Assault Vest is also just borderline silly, but it really gives Kecleon a chance to be useful. A versatile Protean attacker that tanks Sp. Attacks.

It didnt just beat a pokemon. It beat a nidoking....

[Indigo]

I don't get it, Nidoking isn't exactly recognized for being really good? It was a nice feat for Kecleon though.

[Stove]

Nov 24, 2013 22:55:56 GMT Indigo said:

I don't get it, Nidoking isn't exactly recognized for being really good? It was a nice feat for Kecleon though.

You've got that wrong.
Considering it was a Keckleon that did it too...that actually is very impressive.

[Indigo]

Nov 23, 2013 14:26:05 GMT Metal said:

Eh, clax i feel like your problem here is your conflicted because you cant make the ultimate team out of pokemon you like.
...

Missed this post somehow. Well, I know I'm not going to be making an 'ultimate team' any time soon, especially with a team full of lower tier Pokemon. What I want is more of a mary sue team. A very versatile team that is almost impossible to be hard-counter, and has Pokemon with a wide range of attacks and strategies. Greninja is self explanatory, Kecleon is like a slow Greninja but Sp. buff, with elemental attacks and Sucker Punch to be able to hit first a lot of times and finish off enemies.

Not sure if I'm using Ditto yet, but with a Choice Scarf, he can turn into just about any role I could use from the opponent and strike first. Especially great as a revenge killer, or a trump card against anyone who tries to sweep (Ditto will sure like those buffs to steal). And generally great against Dragons or Pokemon who carry attacks of their own weakness. Of course, the jarring problem here is Ditto's depressing HP.

Zoroark can make or break strategies, while being a great mixed attacker. You never know when that Sigilyph might be a Zoroark ready to take a Dark attack.

Edit: Somehow started rambling beyond here. Good luck.

And Sigilyph... I gotta get one with Magic Guard and Psycho Shift. He can carry a Flame Orb, and pass Burn to every Pokemon as long as he lives. Which he likely will. With decent defenses and HP, and Cosmic Power and Roost. He can turn into a wall against anything, and twofold against physical attackers. His last move can be Stored Power. Just getting two Cosmic Powers in with the help of Roost, it'll be a 100 STAB Psychic attack. If I get the chance to keep buffing (which should be rather easy after getting two in (which should be rather easy with a good switch in)), it can get to 140, 180... To a max of 260... Which sounds kind of ridiculous and easy to accomplish for what it is. If that ends up too situational or specific, he can ditch Psycho Shift and Stored Power, switch the item for something like Leftovers or Rocky Helmet, and he can become a Psychic/Flying Sp. Attacker that can also set up as a double wall that's immune to status damage.

And Scyther or Gallade because I like them a lot... Scyther is just so versatile with Technician and Eviolite. With Struggle Bug and Roost, he can likely shut down many Sp. Attackers. Or he can be a physical sweeper with Sword Dance. Gallade on the other hand, barely has more HP than Eviolite Scyther, a little more Attack, a sad Defense stat, about the same Sp. Def as Scyther, and unimpressive Speed. His abilities are borderline useless, too. His only real saving grace is having STAB Close Combat and STAB Psycho Cut (which is only great if it hits a critical). His coverage isn't too bad with Leaf Blade and Poison Jab as well, but he's just too slow and easy to OHKO with anything physical... The only reason to use him over Scyther would be his small weakness list. Though I guess he could actually be much more useful with a Choice Scarf and the four physical attacks I mentioned, but I need to start grinding BP again.

Well, ended up rambling my team-making thought process again. Moral of the story is, I'm striving for a jack-of-all trades team rather than something invincible or devastating.

[Stove]

Finally found my game. On to receive the Froakie whenever.

[Stove]

My Zerneas has thee perfect IVs.
How does that even happen at random? OP.

That aside, I replayed this game for the fifth time. I should start making my team already, and I know for sure what mega I want this time. This is going to be fun. >:3

That said, could anyone get on now? I'd like to get some Friend Safari things done.

[Indigo]

So... PokeBank's out. Got myself an Unburden Sceptile and a Porygon2. Anyone for a mini revival here now?

So far, I've maxed out Gekigai's (Sceptile) Sp. Def and HP EVs. Why? Weakness Policy. It's pretty risky, but he can take some super effective sp. attacks. He's also a physical attacker, because of his really good physical movepool. Sword Dance first turn, take an Sp. Attack... Survive.

Gekigai ULTIMATE POWER GEKI-GET! If he pulls that off, Sword Dance doubles his Attack... And so does Weakness Policy (4x). Then Unburden activates, 2x Speed (while he's already one of the faster Pokemon in the game). He has STAB Leaf Blade (that can crit sometimes), His other two moves are Brick Break or Rock Slide, but I might consider Earthquake. Rock Slide is probably better for Flying threats, and 30% flinch chance. Anyway, that's amazing sweeping potential and coverage.

Gekigai... He survived a max Sp. Attack EV + natured Nidoking Sludge Wave, who had Sheer Force. And a Life Orb. With 4hp, but it works... He's a real ace in my eyes.

And now I have to work on Porygon2. I plan to have him as support and set up Kecleon for success. In short, he has 85HP, 90 and 95 defenses. He can use an Eviolite... 130~ defenses, will go great with max HP EVs. He can even learn Recover. And Trick Room (with 60 Speed). This guy is ridiculously ambiguous... He learns Conversion (changes his type to the type of his first listed move) and Conversion 2 (randomly switch to a type resistant to or immune to the last move he was hit by). He has three very good abilities, but the only relevant two to me are Trace and Download.

But anyway, I'd like him and Kecleon to be a sort of tag team because they can work together... Porygon2 can very easily pull off a Trick Room, for himself and Kecleon. Both can Recover... Kecleon would be amazing moving first with Protean and HP/Def EVs. He could likely finish off enemies even after Trick Room ends, with his priority moves. I've also been wanting to teach Kecleon Retaliate because he can do very nice STAB off it (and it's the coolest animation in the game) possibly revenge killing for Porygon2 or anyone else, and then being hard to revenge, himself, because of his priority Protean attacks, even moreso if Trick Room's still up. I still can't even figure out what item Kecleon could use...

Ugh... So many possibilities now!

Well, current team is Sceptile/Kecleon/Heliolisk/Scyther/Greninja and Bisharp/Gallade/Sigilyph. I might switch Greninja out for Zoroark for even crazier wildcard-team mindgames, and I'll probably switch Scyther out for Porygon2 due to eviolite resource issues.

tl;dr Clax planning days return but is very happy with Gekigai

[Stove]

Feb 9, 2014 3:56:26 GMT Indigo said:

So... PokeBank's out. Got myself an Unburden Sceptile and a Porygon2. Anyone for a mini revival here now?

So far, I've maxed out Gekigai's (Sceptile) Sp. Def and HP EVs. Why? Weakness Policy. It's pretty risky, but he can take some super effective sp. attacks. He's also a physical attacker, because of his really good physical movepool. Sword Dance first turn, take an Sp. Attack... Survive.

Gekigai ULTIMATE POWER GEKI-GET! If he pulls that off, Sword Dance doubles his Attack... And so does Weakness Policy (4x). Then Unburden activates, 2x Speed (while he's already one of the faster Pokemon in the game). He has STAB Leaf Blade (that can crit sometimes), His other two moves are Brick Break or Rock Slide, but I might consider Earthquake. Rock Slide is probably better for Flying threats, and 30% flinch chance. Anyway, that's amazing sweeping potential and coverage.

Gekigai... He survived a max Sp. Attack EV + natured Nidoking Sludge Wave, who had Sheer Force. And a Life Orb. With 4hp, but it works... He's a real ace in my eyes.

And now I have to work on Porygon2. I plan to have him as support and set up Kecleon for success. In short, he has 85HP, 90 and 95 defenses. He can use an Eviolite... 130~ defenses, will go great with max HP EVs. He can even learn Recover. And Trick Room (with 60 Speed). This guy is ridiculously ambiguous... He learns Conversion (changes his type to the type of his first listed move) and Conversion 2 (randomly switch to a type resistant to or immune to the last move he was hit by). He has three very good abilities, but the only relevant two to me are Trace and Download.

But anyway, I'd like him and Kecleon to be a sort of tag team because they can work together... Porygon2 can very easily pull off a Trick Room, for himself and Kecleon. Both can Recover... Kecleon would be amazing moving first with Protean and HP/Def EVs. He could likely finish off enemies even after Trick Room ends, with his priority moves. I've also been wanting to teach Kecleon Retaliate because he can do very nice STAB off it (and it's the coolest animation in the game) possibly revenge killing for Porygon2 or anyone else, and then being hard to revenge, himself, because of his priority Protean attacks, even moreso if Trick Room's still up. I still can't even figure out what item Kecleon could use...

Ugh... So many possibilities now!

Well, current team is Sceptile/Kecleon/Heliolisk/Scyther/Greninja and Bisharp/Gallade/Sigilyph. I might switch Greninja out for Zoroark for even crazier wildcard-team mindgames, and I'll probably switch Scyther out for Porygon2 due to eviolite resource issues.

tl;dr Clax planning days return but is very happy with Gekigai

lol I'm now using Alakazam/Gengar/Venusaur/Greninja/Crobat/Machamp.
I need to cut down on the poison types. They're like...a close second to ghosts now for my favorite type, and there's three on this team, all of whom are weak to psychic. >_> So yeah, this team needs to be fixed. I'll probably remove Venusaur.

[Indigo]

It's probably not so bad. Just have a Dark type somewhere. IMO it's one of the most 'neutral' typings, in that its weaknesses aren't very well distributed moves, and Bug is just kinda lol, and nice Fighting resistance.

Porygon2 apparently is good at the Trick Room niche... And boltbeam. I think he and Kecleon will get along nicely.

Main problem right now is breeding and raising a Porygon... And having to get 48BP. So grindy.

[thadudette]

Feb 9, 2014 8:33:24 GMT Indigo said:

Porygon2 apparently is good at the Trick Room niche... And boltbeam. I think he and Kecleon will get along nicely.

Supposedly but I just haven't seen that in my experience Porygons are slow but not slow as molasses like Dusknoir or Bronzong, and seem to in fact be faster than a lot of other Pokemon... That slot for Trick Room probably could be used better unless it's specifically EV'ed and IV'ed for slowness.

Of course I'm not poking my nose in a thread about a game I don't have, what do you mean ... :3

[Indigo]

Porygon2 has 60 speed... That's actually very low. Porygon Z is much faster, but I'm going to keep it at the second stage for its nice defenses that rocket up with an Eviolite. Only specific fighting attacks may be able to OHKO him with max HP EVs (and might even need STAB?). So Trick Room is very sure-fire... But it's only half for himself. Kecleon is practically unmatched in slowness, so once it's set up, he can shine with Protean.

But in general, in a game where Speed is so important, it can even help fast Pokemon outspeed the very fast Pokemon. Trick Room users are usually not much more than support, so it's nice that Porygon2 can set it up for the team and also do damage, himself, plus with Recover and his Eviolite defenses, it may be possible to set it up more than once.

Well, the main idea is to have him and Kecleon be a sort of tag team.

[Stove]

Feb 9, 2014 10:57:25 GMT Indigo said:

Porygon2 has 60 speed... That's actually very low. Porygon Z is much faster, but I'm going to keep it at the second stage for its nice defenses that rocket up with an Eviolite. Only specific fighting attacks may be able to OHKO him with max HP EVs (and might even need STAB?). So Trick Room is very sure-fire... But it's only half for himself. Kecleon is practically unmatched in slowness, so once it's set up, he can shine with Protean.

But in general, in a game where Speed is so important, it can even help fast Pokemon outspeed the very fast Pokemon. Trick Room users are usually not much more than support, so it's nice that Porygon2 can set it up for the team and also do damage, himself, plus with Recover and his Eviolite defenses, it may be possible to set it up more than once.

Well, the main idea is to have him and Kecleon be a sort of tag team.

yes 60 base speed is pretty slow but a TON of common pokemon are slower, such as Bronzong, Conkeldurr, Machamp, and Ferrothorn, to give a few common examples.
Also I seem to be the only person who actually prefers Porygon-Z to Porygon 2. Dat adaptability, flinging out insta-death hyper beams n' shat.