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Post by Carigun on Dec 20, 2012 22:49:06 GMT
GOTCHA FORCE 2
hope im the first to comment
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Post by Death Eye on Dec 20, 2012 23:35:42 GMT
You really think we could get a quality product out of a $10 download game? Nope. Not happening. The best we could possibly get is a download of the original game on the Wii U, which still won't accomplish much in terms of sequel possibility if barely anyone downloads it. And let's not forget the fact that we have, what, 25 active members here? Assuming that we're only .1% of the fanbase, that only leaves 25,000 people total. How many people liked that Facebook page for MML3 again? Over 100,000? Point being, this will accomplish nothing. I'm not saying don't try it, it'd be great if I were to be proven wrong, but seriously, what are the odds of this actually working?
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Post by Stove on Dec 20, 2012 23:58:57 GMT
Nope.
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Post by njayhuang on Dec 21, 2012 0:05:08 GMT
Even so, it couldn't hurt.
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Post by vinnydilallo on Dec 21, 2012 9:55:22 GMT
I know I was being overly optomistic, but if I just said "its not gonna do anything.. but take the time to do an annoying survey" then no one would do it. Just wanted to get this spread AROUND. I'm not limiting this to the forum. I wanted people here to get it as noticed as possible in other sites. Youtube, facebook, gamefaqs, anywhere a gotcha force fan who gives a damn is.
And Digital doesn't mean you cant make an HD Remake or Port. Prices of digital downloads aren't restriced to $10 either. Wouldn't you appreciate that at the very least? And its not set in stone that its a nintendo exclusive (I hardly think the Gamecube console, memory card, and controller models couldn't be changed.. so don't tell me that's the only reason..), I don't know where people get this from... if people don't try, then this franchise is going to die for good. (Like it pretty much has since it came out in 2003)
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Post by Death Eye on Dec 21, 2012 11:24:12 GMT
I know I was being overly optomistic, but if I just said "its not gonna do anything.. but take the time to do an annoying survey" then no one would do it. Just wanted to get this spread AROUND. I'm not limiting this to the forum. I wanted people here to get it as noticed as possible in other sites. Youtube, facebook, gamefaqs, anywhere a gotcha force fan who gives a damn is. Spreading the word is a good idea, I'll agree on that. But you'd be surprised how many people would do the survey anyway even without the assertion that it'll totally work. GameCube games are, like, 1-4 GB on their own. I'm not going to pretend that I know what the limits are on downloadable game sizes, but I suspect HD graphics would be too much to remain under it. A Virtual Console-style direct port with no alterations whatsoever might not be an issue, though, since I think Nintendo planned something like that already anyway, ergo it's not too big. Related to the aforementioned size concerns; if they're going to make a new game of any sort, unless I'm severely underestimating downloadable games' sizes it'll probably go the graphics-over-gameplay route and be inferior to the original game in every relevant way. That's not a concern of cost, that's a file size issue. I'm not quite sure when this came into play, but the console is irrelevant in the case of a downloadable game, memory cards don't exist these days, and controllers? Look at a PS3 controller real quick. Go ahead, this is text, it's not going anywhere. Do you really want to try playing Gotcha Force on that thing? With the stick all the way over there considerably less conveniently placed over there to the right and the A, B, and X buttons (or, rather, their effective equivalents in terms of placement) in a V pattern? It's absurd. How on earth would you hold two of then and hit the third? Granted, the Wii U controller's no better for that, but its stick, from what I remember, is more well-placed. Hate to rain on your parade, but, well, you said it yourself:Also that seems rather self-evident; either we motivate them to make a sequel/remake/port or they do it themselves, put one advertizement in one magazine and then wonder why it didn't sell as much as Capcom vs. the World. ...Ergo, the real solution would be to get everyone and their mother to play the game. Numbers, not noise, are what indicate sales; one person screaming as loud as they can is less persuasive than 250 talking at a reasonable volume. So rather than come to a small forum and tell us all to scream our heads off and spam their inboxes, a better idea would be to have us spread the word about the game itself instead of an opportunity to yell in Capcom's ears.
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Post by vinnydilallo on Dec 21, 2012 19:17:25 GMT
I mean the gc memory card and controller models in the game itself on the menu screens. Remember?
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Post by vinnydilallo on Dec 21, 2012 19:29:19 GMT
Well I tried. I have been hoping for something from the series every single year and the game out so long ago.. when gotcha force got rereleased in japan, a shred of hope came back. If it got popular in Japan even, id just import a port or sequel, but still. If its obvious to diehard fans then it should be obvious to me. Gotcha Force is what it is and won't be anything more. Hanging around a forum would just kind of depress me that the series never caught on. Just wanted to get the word out.. and I'm not going to continue this pointless argument.
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Post by Stove on Dec 21, 2012 19:36:10 GMT
Well I tried. I have been hoping for something from the series every single year and the game out so long ago.. when gotcha force got rereleased in japan, a shred of hope came back. If it got popular in Japan even, id just import a port or sequel, but still. If its obvious to diehard fans then it should be obvious to me. Gotcha Force is what it is and won't be anything more. Hanging around a forum would just kind of depress me that the series never caught on. Just wanted to get the word out.. and I'm not going to continue this pointless argument. So you joined simply for this one thing? What kind of a Gotcha Force Fan are you? Gotcha Force is a gem as it is, and everyone here appreciates it. I'd rather keep the nostalgia and good times of the game, than have Capcom make a new one and screw it up. Gotcha is good the way it is, and I appreciate it for what it is, a good, fun game. If you're truly a fan, appreciate it how it is now.
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Post by thadudette on Dec 21, 2012 20:04:08 GMT
It's not that none of us want a sequel, I'm sure 90% of us do, but after 9 years I think we've come to terms with being happy with the original game. And maybe some of us have given up a bit, seeing as so many efforts in the past came to naught. If anything, the Japan reprints selling out as fast as they did (in what, 2 days?) should've been loud enough IMO, but we'll see What happened to that old petition forever ago, anyways? Also, welcome to GFF and I hope you'll decide to stick around (Don't worry, the pizza platypi are in their dormant states and aren't hostile at this season.) Edit: Dangit. He was here before I posted this - - "
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Post by Death Eye on Dec 21, 2012 20:12:11 GMT
Hanging around a forum would just kind of depress me that the series never caught on. Why is it so imperative that the game become a series, anyway? There's enough replay value in the first game to last for a lifetime, as long as you have the dedication to keep working at it for that long. Not that you're going to read this, since you apparently deleted your account already. Not gonna lie, that's a pretty lame thing to do right there. What happened to that old petition forever ago, anyways? At this point it's lost its influence. We'd need a new one in order for it to really make an impact.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2012 16:13:17 GMT
Wanting a sequel dosnt make you a fan because you had problems with the orginal
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Post by Death Eye on Dec 22, 2012 20:15:22 GMT
Wanting a sequel dosnt make you a fan because you had problems with the orginal Not necessarily true. Even if you think the original game does everything right, that doesn't mean you can't want a sequel to do even more stuff right. Plus you have to admit the EXP system is broken and the final battle was kind of lame.
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Post by Stove on Dec 23, 2012 1:39:27 GMT
Aaand that idiot left.
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Post by Death Eye on Dec 23, 2012 2:38:36 GMT
I wouldn't call him an idiot. Just naïve. And presumably not anything even vaguely resembling a perfectionist. But I'm not here to psychoanalyze the guy, so whatever.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 23, 2012 2:55:35 GMT
I wouldn't call him an idiot. Just naïve. And presumably not anything even vaguely resembling a perfectionist. But I'm not here to psychoanalyze the guy, so whatever. A true fan wld try to 100% it. I wld, but i lent my game to sum frends for a few months now...... they dnt evn hve a memory card...... nd they kinda suk at it....... nd i miss it!!
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Post by Death Eye on Dec 23, 2012 3:15:13 GMT
A true fan wld try to 100% it. Normally I'd agree, but in this case shooting for anything higher than 28% is completely insane; I think we all know how absurdly rare rare Borgs are, absolute 100% completion is the aspiration of a madman. ...That may or may not be misconstrued...
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Post by Deleted on Dec 23, 2012 4:52:46 GMT
i only need a few deathborgs nd the i'll be dun.
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Post by Death Eye on Dec 23, 2012 5:31:19 GMT
i only need a few deathborgs nd the i'll be dun. Proving my point exactly; we have different definitions of 100%. Assuming you're not also talking about alts, you're talking about what I count as about 18%. 100% by my interpretation is an unreasonable aspiration. And since we have no idea how much he's accomplished in the game, how do we know he hasn't fulfilled his definition of 100% completion?
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Post by Stove on Dec 23, 2012 5:44:42 GMT
i only need a few deathborgs nd the i'll be dun. Proving my point exactly; we have different definitions of 100%. Assuming you're not also talking about alts, you're talking about what I count as about 18%. 100% by my interpretation is an unreasonable aspiration. And since we have no idea how much he's accomplished in the game, how do we know he hasn't fulfilled his definition of 100% completion? I'd say I'm roughly 23%
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