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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2013 7:45:32 GMT
Don't compare Rosssiu to Kyubey... I hate Rossiu, and Rossiu is more effected by human emotion than Kyubey is anyway. Speaking of which, I thought that the enitre point of the people turning so easily was supposed to show just how stupid it was that they would sway so easily, like how the beastmen bent to he spiral kings will so easily, and how easy it is to make scapegoats and fabricate information. Besides, at this point Simon had resigned himself to his death because he believed Rossiu would lead the human race better than he would.
I have no idea why people think the charm goes in the second half. It's weird, considering everything great about the series is magnified by 10. Your thinking of the 6th episode I think. Try watching it uncensored. Otherwise your thinking of the episode between the first and second arcs. Yeah that episode was dumb.
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Post by Stove on Jan 18, 2013 13:45:32 GMT
The charm goes in the first 5-ish episodes. 2nd half is decent now that I rewatched. ...it's rather obvious characters make a show for me. Not plot, setting, a BS story, if you've got amazing characters it redeems a show for me. (part of the reason I say I like HotD. The only characters that aren't garbage(and they're amazing) are saeko and Khota.) Whatever, I'm getting off topic.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2013 15:49:49 GMT
I like characters and consider them to be incredibly important, but I only like them when they have a proper place in the plot. I think killing of Kamina at roughly the time they did was a good decision, otherwise I don't think this show would become what I love it for. I mean, Simon and Nia would be pointless if Kamina lived because it would basically make Kamina the main character as Simon would never be able to grow as a person... as such, I think I like Kamina more precisely because he died.
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Post by Indigo on Jan 18, 2013 18:33:17 GMT
The action was still great, but the plot kinda delved too much into politics and people changing so much and stuff while not being very reasonable. It just completely lost the 'underground zero to surface hero' vibe to me, up until they left to space. Not saying it wasn't a great anime of course
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Post by Stove on Jan 18, 2013 23:24:33 GMT
I like characters and consider them to be incredibly important, but I only like them when they have a proper place in the plot. I think killing of Kamina at roughly the time they did was a good decision, otherwise I don't think this show would become what I love it for. I mean, Simon and Nia would be pointless if Kamina lived because it would basically make Kamina the main character as Simon would never be able to grow as a person... as such, I think I like Kamina more precisely because he died. And the reason I liked the 2nd half was because of how well Simon grew. Before he grew he was a whiny little brat in my opinion. He became like Kamina, developing with the whole reasons I liked Kamina.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2013 23:33:52 GMT
I like characters and consider them to be incredibly important, but I only like them when they have a proper place in the plot. I think killing of Kamina at roughly the time they did was a good decision, otherwise I don't think this show would become what I love it for. I mean, Simon and Nia would be pointless if Kamina lived because it would basically make Kamina the main character as Simon would never be able to grow as a person... as such, I think I like Kamina more precisely because he died. And the reason I liked the 2nd half was because of how well Simon grew. Before he grew he was a whiny little brat in my opinion. He became like Kamina, developing with the whole reasons I liked Kamina. 100% agreement, that is exactly what I was talking about in the analysis, or at least part of what I was trying to get across.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2013 1:14:36 GMT
Deleted my Another and Seikon no Qwasar reviews because like the shows themselves, I thought the reviews of them were pretty terrible. Besides that my views of the shows themselves have become much less hate filled, and seeing myself spewing bile and not even being funny about it... was not a pleasant experience. I'll stick to as fair as possible evaluation and promotion of things I have a mostly positive opinion towards; if I can help it rather than degrade myself in such a manner. I don't even think my points were as valid in those rants as the negative points I make about stuff in things I like... so, yeah, just thought I'd inform everyone of that just in case they poured over the reviews and realised something was missing... my past self makes me so depressed at times.
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Post by Indigo on Feb 5, 2013 20:27:16 GMT
Steins;Gate/10 The last episode was so powerful... At 'that' certain bloody part I almost felt like throwing up and felt my consciousness drifting away, felt grossed out and shocked at the self-impale, and then I almost lost it after he did you-know-what to himself... I mean, I'm somewhat hemophobic, but anime scenes aren't generally invoking. But again... That whole scene was just so amazing, that it could make me feel like that, and feel so bad for the characters at the same time... Well, 'overrated' animes take a lot to meet my expectations, but I can safely say that it's an anime that definitely earned its status. Honestly, I saw it as the #3 anime and figured it was just something people flock to like SAO, even if it was good, but... The amount of feeling from Steins;Gate is amazing, it went so much beyond my ridiculous expectations, never have I seen a show that kept me so much on edge with every episode, with perfectly timed OPs and EDs that sent chills every time, that made me feel the despair of the main character... Yet also delivering some of the funniest anime scenes all the time. It was even funnier than Gintama for the first half. Then became a very deep story about well thought out time travel rather than just cheating time. There's so much to say... But the final episode and before was so gut wrenching... A message from future Kyouma in a sad devastated world bringing hope to his past self still with his own memes, finding out Kyouma was the one who accidentally killed Kyouma, and after everything was finally resolved, taking a last look at his past self about to redo the entire thing from the beginning... That was so sad. But ultimately, a happy ending, just still sad that there are so many other depressing world lines... Kyouma accepts a world without Kurisu, but then stumbles across her and talks to 'himself,' "It's me... Why is she here?" Ha, geez... Wish the ending it was a little longer, but conveniently the sequel movie is coming out very soon now. So, again... It's an anime that definitely earned its ratings, it's ended up as my first 10/10 anime, despite going into it with god-like expectations... Such is the choice of Steins Gate. You know how good it has to be to end up as my favorite, when it doesn't have mechs and I started watching with no real interest. Although I swear, near the end, Mayushi mentioned bringing Kyouma a mecha anime manga as fanservice for me. Oh, yeah, I watched it with the Japanese audio, since the website I get anime in PSP format hardly has any dubs, but honestly, it was amazing, and makes sense anyway, what with Kurisu being the only one who knows English. So many memorable funny moments and engrish jokes... www.youtube.com/watch?v=v92mt7orfgQwww.youtube.com/watch?v=1Bf0aYBk0OQAnyway, now onto Code Geass... First four episodes have been surprisingly good considering I started watching it right after Steins;Gate had its effect on me. It's also pretty refreshing to see so much awesome mecha action and stylish roller skating mechs after weeks of Madoka and Steins;Gate.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2013 21:02:21 GMT
Steins;Gate truly is amazing, its my second favorite anime below fullmetal alchemist: brotherhood. And honestly, its EVEN BETTER in dub form. Each character sounds as you would expect and the humor just has much better delivery with it being from our own language and such. I guess the only problem with the dub was that they had to change the 'I'm mad scientist. ITS SO COOL!' Scene. The rest more than makes up for it though. Code geass is also really good, I thought it may be the sort of thing you like.
Oh, and also, Robotics;notes isn't living up to Steins;gate so far, although it is better than Chaos;Head. I'm hoping that it will be able to fill in the reason behind Okabe receiving his 'reading Steiner' however which is always a plus, and it also contains a grown up version of Nae, the daughter of Braun in Steins;gate.
And did you see the OVA episode which starts with Okabe wondering across a wilderness and brings back all of those funny scenes?
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Post by Indigo on Feb 5, 2013 21:39:05 GMT
Well, I've seen some clips of the dub on YouTube... The voices are great, Kyouma's voice is is really awesome, but I have to say the Japanese voices fit better. Kurisu's is completely different, and Mayuri is so much less moe even if still cute (the only readily available clip of her moeness...)... Of course, that's all just based on perspective, just like you watched the dub first, so those fit better to you. But do they ever mention Kurisu being American as a joke? She was also the only one who was able to read the Jellyman report due to it being English. I may watch the dub in the future though, if I ever rewatch it. I don't typically like to rewatch stuff because it loses all sense of surprise and following the plot and stuff, but this might be an exception... Also, I'm gonna share some spoilers... Which normally isn't a problem, but this is something I read about the manga. Although it seems the anime completely diverted it, just warning just in case. Nae in the manga was actually a time traveler... Who traveled back thousands of times. In the SERN dystopia future, she tortured Kyouma since he founded the rebellion against SERN. She was the one who killed Moeka, shortly after Mr. Braun committed suicide, to protect Nae and Moeka. And she stabbed afterwards Kyouma in the shoulder with a knife going all psycho saying he's next, because she hates him for supposedly being the cause of Braun's death. She couldn't kill him at the time, because she was destined to kill him many years into the future. Well... Honestly, I think that's too crazy. I'm kinda glad they just kept her as a nice little girl Braun cared about, but it's also annoying that in the anime Braun killed Moeka before himself, when in the manga he died to protect her and Nae. It just made him more unlikable. Even though that's non-canon for the anime, I still wonder... I'm really curious about how the future was like. Not knowing much about it and just seeing future-Kyouma after only hearing about it gives it this depressing and eerie feeling, but I'm still curious... It makes sense that we're only shown the 'true' Okarin's life, though, but still, it'd be a really interesting OVA or something, we never know why Kurisu ended up as a spy after all, or how Daru built a time machine (and who he marries)... But it's maybe for the best that it remains as a mysterious alternate future of the story. Ugh, future Kyouma and that last look Kyouma takes at his past self is so sad.On another subject... I think I need to just find a place to download dubs to convert them to PSP format myself... Because on Anime4PSP, Code Geass is one of the 95% Japanese audio animes, and at first I thought it was just a weird anime that doesn't have an OP or ED for a while, but I realized what I got just has them cut off... And it has questionable subs. The first episode ends abruptly with Lelouch saying "That's why..." with that psycho-ish grin. In the dub he says "Well then," as it breaks off into the ED. And that wasn't the only episode with a weird ending. Yeah... Time to stop relying on Anime4PSP. But anyway, I'm liking Lelouch's character a lot, like two sides of a coin... But, Suzaku almost seems like the protagonist, and we're watching the story from the 'Riku' (as in Kingdom Hearts) perspective so far... I mean, Suzaku's the really kind guy with a main-character hairstyle and gets the awesome 'Gundam.'
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2013 21:46:38 GMT
Actually, I saw it in subs first, then re watched it with my Dad on the funimation DVD dubbed. (He really liked it)
Actually, that wasn't the manga you described. That was the japan only visual novel for the Xbox. C;H, S;G, and R;N are all adaptions of them, each of which were made by pretty much the same team.
Yeah I read up Nae. She's pretty much an Akiho clone in R;N though, which is kinda meh... but, whatever. Anyway, that was simply a 'bad end' possible route and she doesn't end up like that in the true ending of the visual novel.
In code geass, they're kinda both the main protagonist and it focuses quite heavily on their relationship. Two friends secretly fighting each other without knowing it, with opposite morals. Also I believe Lelouch starts flying around in a mech for a bit. (Although it may just be C.C piloting it while he sits back giving orders to her and his fleet or something, my memory is hazy.)
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Post by Indigo on Feb 5, 2013 22:34:19 GMT
Ah, well... Dubs sound more natural to us, and they're really good for SteinslGate, but I think it's hard to get over a lot of the Japanese voices because they're so memorable. The engrish jokes and Kyouma's laughs, the way he pronounces some things, overly moe Mayuri... The dub changes some stuff like Celeb-17, into "moneybags," it's a shame since the way he says Celeb-17 and repeats it while shaking his finger cracks me up every time... Calling her Moneybags and then "Well, that's what you really are" is funny, just not as funny as the weird engrish... Anyway, it's just preference, so I it doesn't really matter. And... I said manga for some reason, but yeah, it was the visual novel. I thought it was part of getting the true end though from where I read it, so it makes sense on how the anime went with it, but I still don't really like how they made Braun into killing Moeka just because she already did her job.
From playing Another Century's Episode, I think it's pretty safe to assume Lelouch does pilot a mech, unless that's just for the sake of the games. He uses this black and gold mech that looks a bit like Lancelot. And I figured they were two protagonists of sorts, but I mean, like I said, it kind of seems like Kingdom Hearts, where there's the 'good' protagonist, and his friend who ends up taking a darker path for power to do what is right. It's just an interesting view. Suzaku just has all of the qualities of a typical Gundam main character, while the show focuses on the darker hero, which is probably a good thing. Although it's quite strange at times, because he acts completely differently in his normal life...
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Post by Stove on Mar 3, 2013 1:59:38 GMT
I have this desire to rp that. Reminds me of T.W.A.T.S from entertainment vault. Mentioning that, why did you lock that place anyway? You and I are the only people who can even acess it anymore.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2013 10:10:42 GMT
I have this desire to rp that. Reminds me of T.W.A.T.S from entertainment vault. Mentioning that, why did you lock that place anyway? You and I are the only people who can even access it anymore. RP what? Mnemosyne? I locked the place because it's pointless to keep it open. Maybe I'll set t free when the time is right. Also T.W.A.T.S is an embarrassment I want to forget. I'd definitely rebuild the site from the ground up.
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Post by Stove on Mar 3, 2013 14:23:44 GMT
^Yeah, it turned into tat doing godmod stuff in a normal human rp and the second part just turned to "what!?" Still, I like the concept of having to resist your desires for life.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2013 17:18:54 GMT
Well I wouldn't know how to go about it, so you'd have to make the RP. I'd join one though, probably.
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Post by Stove on Mar 3, 2013 17:47:56 GMT
Well I wouldn't know how to go about it, so you'd have to make the RP. I'd join one though, probably.
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Post by Indigo on Mar 3, 2013 21:55:49 GMT
So just make a Code Geass RP, duh.
Nah... Actually, I don't think Al even reviewed that here, but I finished watching it some time ago. It was great, my only real complaint is that I preferred the more stylish urban mech battles from the first half over the everything-has-wings and shoots giant beams. The first half had some really awesome stunts with roller skating through streets and flipping off walls and stuff.
But, the ending... (/~\);
I even knew how it ended, because the internet is the internet, and the internet loves surprise spoilers. So tragic but happy. But was Suzaku supposed to be a hate character? I always see nothing but hate for him... But he was my favorite character throughout.
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Post by Stove on Mar 3, 2013 22:06:51 GMT
^Suzaku was one of my favorites all through the series. Gotta agree though, while there were some great fight scenes in the 2nd half, (a certain Lelouch vs Anya battle in a burning city comes to mind) the first half felt better in terms of strategy and the urban feel. 2nd half is mostly just straightforward fighting, flying, normal mechs. The story is fantastic and the properties of geass never feels too broken; they have their limitations. Aside from my fanboying over her, Anya really did have one of my favorite backstories. Plus, she wasn't some generic tsundere, emotionless, yandere, annoying b**** mean girl, shy girl subtype. She was varied like almost everyone (except kallen(GENERIC TOMBOY BATTLE GIRL)) and the series' great characters and story sold it for me. Lelouch's sacrifice and plan was ingenious and heartfelt, it's the only anime ending that made me tear up or cry. It's fantastic, still my favorite anime ever.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2013 22:15:30 GMT
I loved Code Geass but there are plenty of characters who I forget existed. Only Lelouch, Suzaku, C.C and Shirley really stick out to me. And Nunally and Kallen I guess, I liked Nunally but Kallen only sticks out because of how much she hangs around. I do remember other characters but I usually have to try hard to remember their personalities and actions.
Oh, and I still dislike Rolo.
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