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Post by Jay24092 on Dec 5, 2011 10:22:32 GMT
G black
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Post by ThriceElite on Dec 10, 2011 17:09:30 GMT
Okay, it's official. I love meleeing with Barrier Girl now. Her melee attack knocks back the enemy, and you can keep rushing into his face and beating him down, instead of trying to take him down from a distance and being hit anyways.
This is especially effective against those annoying robots. You know, the ones with Victory, Machine, or Proto in their names. Their beams are irritating, but if you keep knocking them down with melee, you can deal a lot of damage to them. Also take advantage of Hyper Mode, where you can keep reapplying the barrier.
Anyways, I beat the Galactic Emperor. He wasn't hard; just annoying. I couldn't get up there if I fell off, but I ate away at his health with my Metal Hero's X-attack.
Speaking of Metal Hero, here are my NEW (not repeat) borgs since last time:
Arrow Ninja, Magnet Robot (+) Alternate, Panther Vehicle, Cyber Hero (My first B rarity Borg besides Anubis Wing), Metal Hero, Victory Tank
Anyways, the last few borgs of my 1st playthru are Cyber Hero, Metal Hero, Megaton Robot, Victory Tank, Wing Soldier, and Wire Gunner
For the 2nd playthru so far, the only new borgs I got were the Drill Robot and Death Borg Alpha, but I did get data crystals of Vlad and Issac.
So...how are Metal Hero and Cyber Hero? I did get a little taste of Metal Hero in the Galactic Emperor fight, where I knocked the GE down to low health with Metal Hero's X slash, but I have not had much experience with him.
Also Barrier Girl is Level 5 and Shuriken Ninja is Level 8.
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Post by Death Eye on Dec 10, 2011 21:46:42 GMT
So...how are Metal Hero and Cyber Hero? I did get a little taste of Metal Hero in the Galactic Emperor fight, where I knocked the GE down to low health with Metal Hero's X slash, but I have not had much experience with him. Metal Hero is a bit tough to figure out how to use, but quite good when you know what you're doing. As you've seen, the X slash is obscenely powerful; it can take down anything that isn't a fortress in one shot, but tougher opponents (especially large dragons) require somewhat precise placement, by which I mean you have to be right above it but not so perfectly above it that you land on its back and do pretty much nothing. Aside from that, his aerial melees are terrible, but his ground melees are almost as good as Beam Samurai's. Okay, only the last hit is really that good, but that's still pretty good. And it shoots out one of those wave things that goes along the ground like what happens when you use the last hit of G Black's ground combo. Overall, though, he's actually not that awesome in a mob of foes; he's far better at taking out individual opponents. As for Cyber Hero, remember how I said Metal Hero was tough to use? Well, take about 5,000 Metal Heroes' worth of difficulty of use and you've got Cyber Hero. That is barely an exaggeration. I still can't use him decently (that I know of)... so I'm not particularly qualified to explain his merits. But I'm pretty sure if you can figure out how to use him effectively he becomes an unstoppable killing machine. That's all I'll say about that. My Shuriken Ninja is also level 8, apparently... barely. (In case you get the impression that I'm trying to get mine to level 10 before you do, I assure you I am not. I've been working on leveling up all of my ninjas for the past... while.) |
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Post by ThriceElite on Dec 14, 2011 23:15:10 GMT
Just defeated the Sho rematch in Playthru 2. I did better than the previous playthru. Shuriken Ninja took off most of Garuda's health, and my first Battle Girl took off the rest, even dealing some damage to his Wing Soldier before going down. Then my Wind Valkyrie came out. She took down the Wing Soldier, the Jet Hero, and bit off over half of his Blade Wing's health through dodging and firing. My second Battle Girl ate off even more health, and my Command Girl took off the rest, not even taking any damage from Blade Wing.
Team I used to take Sho#2 down (in both playthrus 1 and 2): Shuriken Ninja, Battle Girl, Wind Valkyrie, Battle Girl, Command Girl
Got another (regular) Wing Soldier out of it.
New borgs since last time: Red Attacker, Death Borg Delta III, Alternate Wing Soldier, Demon Samurai, Alternate Claw Robot, Death Borg Chi, Death Borg Zeta, Claw Worm, Alternate Battle Girl, Shadow Girl
Around what playthrough numbers do more gold, silver, black, and crystal borgs show up?
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Post by Death Eye on Dec 21, 2011 20:53:10 GMT
Around what playthrough numbers do more gold, silver, black, and crystal borgs show up? They become more common at higher numbers, as far as anyone knows. I vaguely recall someone saying once that they had more luck with silver Borgs on play #7 or something like that, but I don't remember and it's kind of hard to tell definitively with something based on probability, especially when it's that low. |
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Post by ThriceElite on Dec 22, 2011 0:44:33 GMT
Thanks.
Erm, add that I got a Titan Tank in an intermediate session. Now...:
I had figured out a while ago that when you view a borg's specs, you can use the X Button to reset the view and the A button for an alternate pose. What's your favorite alternate pose, and for which borg?
Barrier Girl's barrier is so good, lol. It can block debuffs like the Shrink Spell, Bug/Death Eye Spell, and can even protect against the Chrono Samurai's time stop.
Barrier Girl and Claw Robot are now at level 7.
New borgs since last time: Slow Valkyrie, Alternate Kung Fu Master, Death Borg Beta II, Beam Satellite (my first non-Galactic Emperor Fortress Borg), Bug Witch, Roach (lol), Alternate Blue Striker (I think this is the first time I got an alternate before the normal version. Not sure; I'd have to check), Violet Attacker, Death Borg Lambda, Alternate Quick Valkyrie
...How good is Slow Valkyrie? On another note, I really like Quick Valkyrie's Alternate colors. Which alternate colored borgs look the best in your opinion?
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Post by Death Eye on Dec 22, 2011 1:06:12 GMT
I had figured out a while ago that when you view a borg's specs, you can use the X Button to reset the view and the A button for an alternate pose. What's your favorite alternate pose, and for which borg? Flame Ninja, probably; when he does it outside of there (since those are victory poses you're talking about) he shoots out flames. What can't it block? Answer: Ninpo Full Throttle. Really. Killed one before the barrier broke with it one time... I think. Don't lol at the Roach; those things can utterly destroy Sasuke.  Also, an alt Blue Striker already? It took me until a few months ago to get one of them, and I used Air Borgs all the time back when I first started (or rather close to it, at least). In a supporting role? Excellent; getting slowed down absolutely cripples just about anything. Alone? Still excellent... if you feel like spending the next 45 minutes doing one fight; she's absolutely horrible at offense. I want to say Dark Knight... and I mean I really want to say Dark Knight... but in terms of aesthetics I'd probably say G Red. Or maybe Flame Dragon. Actually, no, Ultimate Cannon.Yeah.  |
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Post by njayhuang on Dec 22, 2011 1:28:01 GMT
I have to say my favorite victory pose is the jump-flip one that some of the Girl tribe borgs do. I also like Elemental and Ghost Knight's victory pose as well.
I think it has more to do with the barrier not being able to flinch. When used against a normal borg, it only does a few hits before they flinch. Because the barrier can't flinch, Ninpo Full Throttle hits a whole bunch of times and destroys the barrier fairly quickly.
And the entire Gatling Gunner mission. Never underestimate the power of Roach the Japanese!
I would call Slow Valkyrie one of the best valkyries, behind Ring Valkyrie. Her attack is pretty lackluster, as are the other valkyries, but if you can land the slow spell, the fight becomes a lot easier. Like Death Eye said, she's much better as support.
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Post by Death Eye on Dec 22, 2011 1:31:53 GMT
I think it has more to do with the barrier not being able to flinch. When used against a normal borg, it only does a few hits before they flinch. Because the barrier can't flinch, Ninpo Full Throttle hits a whole bunch of times and destroys the barrier fairly quickly. Yes, that is true, but what I mean is that I killed the Barrier Girl before it broke that one time... unless I was just hallucinating or something. Eh, I can probably do that. *goes to try it* ...eventually... *keeps trying, because one failure cannot deter me from my objectives... usually* ...maybe... ...damn grenades... You know what, f*** it, I'm getting Mana; there are too many damn grenades to do this without healing. ...Okay, I did it. But I'll only count that as a success if I find myself talking to one of my friends at school about it, in which case I will count it as a success for the duration of the conversation and no longer than that. |
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Post by ThriceElite on Dec 30, 2011 23:14:16 GMT
Just soloed the combined Machine borgs mission with Barrier Girl. Easy. The Sapphire Knight was easy. Meleed it to death. Ended the battle with over 130 health or something. If you play her well, they won't combine. Even if they do, stall for time by running around the treestump repeatly until they split. Then go back to meleeing in their face with Barrier Girl, which is the best way to send them to the scrap heap.
Also I had Mana as a partner in the mission. She didn't heal me, but that Pop Honey screwed them over for some lulz. No risk of a misfire either, due to Barrier Girl's barrier.
First time using Beam Satellite: Cooperate with Met to retake Stone River! It owned the fortresses, rofl. Second time using Beam Satellite: Retake Mana's home! Easy as pie. Stationary Death Borgs died instantly. Copy Men couldn't do much of anything. Even got an ALTERNATE Copy Man out of it. Third time? It easily killed Sirius and some other borgs in Cooperate with Kakeru to retake his home! G Black dealt with the rest.
New borgs since last time: Thunder Dragon, Flying Saucer, Death Saucer, Alternate Copy Man
Since this is Playthrough 2, and I beat all the Orochi missions, I will get her as a partner soon. For those missions exclusive to Playthroughs 2 and up involving Orochi, what's good to know? Any tips?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2011 0:00:18 GMT
nothing you cant handle at this point, I dont think.
If you've been winning all the Sho battles, he joins too.
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Post by Death Eye on Dec 31, 2011 6:43:31 GMT
First time using Beam Satellite: Cooperate with Met to retake Stone River! It owned the fortresses, rofl. That's how I hunt for rare Siriuses! The two where you recruit Orochi? I took a CRAPLOAD of data on those missions a while ago to simplify Antares hunting, but I don't think you're asking for the entire spawn pattern of both of them. Basically, watch out for an annoying tank in each of them, as well as a couple of annoying combinations (like Ruby and Sapphire Knights and Cyber Ninja, Beam Gunner, and Cyber Girl). They both end with a Cyber _____, and they usually use the power boost, but as far as I can tell you'll never have to fight a Cyber Machine. And, perhaps most importantly of all, when you see the aforementioned Cyber Ninja group in each of the missions pay close attention to what shows up after you kill two Borgs; you could find yourself blindsided by an Ultimate Beam if you don't. Or you could get hit by a dragon's breath attack. Or an Alpha Wing. Who knows? But yeah, it's actually not as difficult as my advice makes it sound. You could probably sweep it with a Barrier Girl, by the sound of it. |
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Post by ThriceElite on Jan 8, 2012 19:41:40 GMT
Knowing the spawn pattern could be useful. I'm willing to read it.
Anyways, here's my Stats for Playthrough 1:
Battles 197
Battles Won: 197 (100%)
162 borgs
70 data crystals
20 hrs 25 min
Think of this as a holdover until my next update. Sadly, I did not record the partner data.
Additionally, if you see thadudette around anywhere, tell her that I read her guide and it was...interesting.
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Post by Death Eye on Jan 9, 2012 0:59:25 GMT
Knowing the spawn pattern could be useful. I'm willing to read it. Well, now that I look back at the file my notation is awkward enough that I don't even remember how it works and I'm not even done collecting data yet, so I'll have to get working on that now. Seeing this makes me wonder why it is that I can never get a 100% win rate; I always seem to miss one battle for some reason. I remember that guide. Unfortunately, only vaguely, though; by the time I had found it I had already beaten the game at least 7 times and no longer used a guide for much of anything. |
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Post by ThriceElite on Jan 23, 2012 0:02:05 GMT
I now of the opinion that Beam Tank should be banned. Along with Cyber Ninja and Beam Gunner. Absurdly broken things. Don't even get them until later playthroughs, either. I was lucky enough to have a Beam Satellite, which I used to annihilate the damn things. G Black cleaned up the rest. Orochi joined me. thadudette would want me to have her as my partner or whatever. Everything else was fine.
I am also of the opinion that they should change the data crystal system from get X amount of different data crystals (Ex: If you get 5 damn N116A Gating Gunner crystals in a row without getting a B crystal, which has happened to me. >:\), to get X amount of crystals flat-out, sidestepping the crystal type nonsense.
New borgs: Death Borg Tau, Gold Hero, Angel Rescue
At this point, I'm pissed. I'll be sure to annihilate every one of those broken late-game borgs with my Beam Satellite. Tired of those damn things.
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Post by Death Eye on Jan 23, 2012 6:25:49 GMT
^Yes, they are quite annoying.
My question, though: If I'm reading that right you're saying that you kill Cyber Ninjas and Beam Gunners with Beam Satellites. How is that even possible?
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Post by ThriceElite on Jan 29, 2012 5:07:44 GMT
Spam the B attack and have decent aim with the X attack. Beam Satellite isn't exactly frail, so you'll have plenty of chances.
Speaking of Beam Satellite, she's awesome. Kills dragons and other annoying crap. Lots of dragons. Love that X attack. Kills anything if it hits. Beam Satellite can even tank a dragon beam or two, which is awesome. Reliably takes down some of the annoying stuff, regardless of the opponent. (Unless you're fighting nukes. >.>)
I tried Gold Hero, and he was nice. Additionally, I meleed some Girl Borgs with Barrier Girl and beat them in Defeat the Girl Borgs or whatever. Was fun, much like how I did it in the first playthrough. Even got an Alternate Angel Nurse out of it. Now at Part 5, the endgame. Just beat the last Hero Borg battle and the first elite unit battle. Love Beam Satellite.
New borgs: Proto Eagle, Alternate Angel Nurse, Cyber Girl, Wing Dragon
So, I got the first of those big robots that show up late-game. Are they any good? Their cost seems kinda ehh to me, and I feel like I would rather just use a Beam Satellite over one anyways. And I had no problem killing them with Barrier Girl, so it seems like they would be mediocre anyways trolololol.
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Post by Commander Brutus on Jan 29, 2012 11:22:24 GMT
Speaking of Beam Satellite, she's awesome. She?  |
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Post by Death Eye on Jan 29, 2012 12:44:22 GMT
Spam the B attack and have decent aim with the X attack. Beam Satellite isn't exactly frail, so you'll have plenty of chances. In my experience the B attack can't hit anything that moves faster than a walking dragon, so if I were to try that the fight would end up taking, like, an hour. Like what happened when I tried doing the Roach mission with it. Fortresses, Dragons, and possibly Tanks: the stuff Beam Satellite was practically built to annihilate. Except for the part where you only have a few shots you can take against the Dragons. That seems to be the general consensus here. I tend to get bored of him quickly, though, myself. I tried meleeing with Barrier Girl yesterday. It didn't go well. If the Elite Unit didn't take you two hours there's something seriously wrong with... something... The AI makes just about everything seem mediocre. Overall, the large Machine Borgs are pretty much really fast tanks with slightly less firepower (except when they can turn into a tank, at which point they are tanks that can transform). They're durable, usually having... I forget the lowest HP total for them, so I'll just say 300, and being rather large and not Dragons or Fortresses they are often very fast. Probably about as fast as Neo G Red would be enlarged to their size. They also take a lot more firepower to send flying. Aside from those details it all depends which one you're talking about. Eagle, Titan, and Panther Robots, as well as anything with Victory in its name, can transform, so they have a bit more versatility. I also should mention that Eagle Robot is incredibly good at beam spamming and that if you don't like Proto Panther you're better off with a Panther Vehicle than a Panther Robot. Machine Red, Machine Blue, Cyber Atlas, and Cyber Mars are all good. Machine Red and Cyber Mars are excellent for just general annihilation, what with their Buster Lasers (in case I'm the only one who pays attention to attack names, Killer Girl's X attack, G Black's charge B attack, and Death Borg Nu III's only attack) and more basic shots. Not to mention the not-too-bad-but-annoyingly-awkward-due-to-the-usually-immense-size-difference melees. Machine Blue and Cyber Atlas, on the other hand, are a bit better for killing large targets like Dragons and Fortresses; they're more durable than the previous two Machines and have more firepower, but they seem slower and their shots aren't quite as accurate, except for Cyber Atlas' remote beams. They're still good for killing just about anything you want to kill with them, but they stand out more against larger targets. Particularly when you use the Power Boost; Machine Blue can outgun a Sirius with the Power Boost. As for the Protos, they're usually exactly the same but without the main defining characteristics of their non-Proto forms; the Proto transformers can't transform, and the Machine ____s and Cyber ____s can't fuse. (Yes, I did neglect to mention fusions, because they rarely even happen and you probably already knew about them.) I think the Proto trasformers may have less HP, but I'm not entirely sure. Also, Proto King can't shoot from his knees, Proto Eagle has entirely different shots, and anything with Proto in its name takes 900 EXP to get to level 10. |
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Post by ThriceElite on Jan 29, 2012 22:20:37 GMT
Lol, Sho is so easy with Gold Hero. I like Gold Hero a lot more now. You know who I also like a lot more now? Death Saucer. It's B attack can actually hit stuff, and it has that mighty X attack that maims dragons/fortresses. Now that I have Special Mode unlocked, Imma gonna hunt for some borgs. Yeah. Suggestions on which borgs I should go for?
New borgs: Death Borg Omega III, Flame Dragon (First borg I hunted for. Yay.), Gatling Gunner (Second borg I hunted for.), Death ICBM (Third.), Star Hero (Fourth. Note that I used the aforementioned Death ICBM to hunt for Heroes.), Killer Girl (Fifth. Again, used the ICBM.), Planet Hero (Sixth. Hunted using the ICBM again. Finally completed my Hero Borg collection...until the alternates and such show up. >.>), Sirius (Seventh. Hunted for using the Beam Satellite.), Antares (Eighth. Again, used the Beam Satellite.)
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