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Post by Frozazen on Oct 11, 2011 1:00:30 GMT
i'm glad that we're going to be doing a tier list, because there was no way that i was going to pull myself out of my procrastination...
its good that we can do it one by one also. I think that it would be best to put them in order first, then figure out the tiers.
also to make a tier list there needs to be rules as to what we are making a tier list for. i suggest making a tier list for versus mode, 1v1, 4000 gf energy, no repeat borgs.
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Post by MeAmCryzor on Oct 11, 2011 16:15:47 GMT
also to make a tier list there needs to be rules as to what we are making a tier list for. i suggest making a tier list for versus mode, 1v1, 4000 gf energy, no repeat borgs. Call me an idiot, but I genuinely don't know what you mean by that or why it's needed XD |
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Post by Frozazen on Oct 11, 2011 19:24:17 GMT
well, different borgs have their uses, and you cant really say that one borg is simply better than another. you have to say that its better in versus mode, or in story mode, or something else. for example, samurai shogun would be considered almost a god in terms of story mode, because the AI can't dodge the shogun slash. however, we players know that in a PvP match, samurai shogun is just plain terrible. slow and terrible, and thus he would be in a lower tier than if the tier list was made with story mode in mind.
As for the 1v1 part, this affects the positions of support borgs on the tier list. i would love for us to make a tier list based on 2v2 fights, because that's what Gotcha Force is all about, but a lot of us can only play with a few people, so 1v1 for now, and we can save the 2v2 for later, especially when gotcha force gets more popular and people start coming up with some pretty crazy tactics with their partners.
for those of you who play pokemon competitively, the tier list on smogon is built with mainly 1v1 fights in mind. sure some bits of advice tell you that one pokemon would be a good 2v2 partner with another, but you don't see a moveset that includes wide guard or something like that.
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Post by MeAmCryzor on Oct 15, 2011 14:06:51 GMT
Since it makes sense to do so, I am proud to announce that this page is now the BOTW Discussion thread. I am deeply sorry that I couldn't update earlier but the Borg of this Week is....... Normal Knight!
...And without further ado... discuss. well, different borgs have their uses, and you cant really say that one borg is simply better than another. you have to say that its better in versus mode, or in story mode, or something else. for example, samurai shogun would be considered almost a god in terms of story mode, because the AI can't dodge the shogun slash. however, we players know that in a PvP match, samurai shogun is just plain terrible. slow and terrible, and thus he would be in a lower tier than if the tier list was made with story mode in mind. As for the 1v1 part, this affects the positions of support borgs on the tier list. i would love for us to make a tier list based on 2v2 fights, because that's what Gotcha Force is all about, but a lot of us can only play with a few people, so 1v1 for now, and we can save the 2v2 for later, especially when gotcha force gets more popular and people start coming up with some pretty crazy tactics with their partners. for those of you who play pokemon competitively, the tier list on smogon is built with mainly 1v1 fights in mind. sure some bits of advice tell you that one pokemon would be a good 2v2 partner with another, but you don't see a moveset that includes wide guard or something like that. Of course, can't believe I didn't see that >.< Right yeah, I think we should have three separate tiers the; 1v1 4000gf versus, 2v2 4000gf versus and story mode.It makes things fairer, and means more fun for us (I shall make a separate thread for tier list discussion... probably) I dunno, what do you guys think? |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2011 14:13:39 GMT
normal knight isn't a borg I use regularly, but I shall post my opinion which may or may not be highly wrong.
1v1: Knight borgs in my experience work best in 1v1, due to their shields. I would say that the shield is the main reason for using a knight borg, along with great mele. Block the bullets while getting in close
2v2: Knight borgs dont work so well because he has to keep track of two opponents to block attacks from, and while he is focusing on one has the risk of being attacked from behind.
story: Good early game because hes one of the borgs encountered early. As a normal, you can practice the knight tribe with him and as a low costing borg also sees good use in the game, especially early on, if you want to use a lot of borgs in a story mode force.
Well, thats my opinion anyway.
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Post by MeAmCryzor on Oct 15, 2011 14:29:26 GMT
^Great thanks, but do you mind re-posting it in the proper thread when it goes live tomorrow? It just makes sorting stuff a bit easier XD
Also, major update to the first post so that it vaguely resembles something like a good OP
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2011 14:33:58 GMT
^ umm, sure. I thought I posted it here then you added it to your post but its up to you.
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Post by Stove on Oct 15, 2011 14:40:22 GMT
Normal knight....it sucks. It's got crappy speed, a shield that rarely works, meh attack, and poor hp for a 180 point borg. The only real way it can even hurt anything without downright screwing itself if it misses is through a close range shield throw. So I have one question, WHY BOTHER? EDIT:  |
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Post by MeAmCryzor on Oct 15, 2011 15:09:35 GMT
^ umm, sure. I thought I posted it here then you added it to your post but its up to you. It just makers it easier to edit stuff in if it's all in one place. Plus, I'm usually quite busy on weekends, so I wont necessarily have time to check more than one topic... I dunno, just makes life easier I guess :3 Edit: Honestly though, I guess I might be able to look here as well. I dunno. You can not re-post it if you wish, but I might not edit it in then is what I'm trying to say |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2011 16:08:48 GMT
I'll repost it in the thread then.
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Post by Frozazen on Oct 15, 2011 18:06:51 GMT
i think for each borg of the week we should put up the borg's stats and moves, just in case that anyone wants to compare one borg with another. (i totally forgot how much normal knight costs >.>)
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Post by Stove on Oct 15, 2011 20:59:23 GMT
^You name any borg and I can give you its cost.
Like I said, its 180.
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Post by MeAmCryzor on Oct 16, 2011 13:20:08 GMT
The first BOTW is up! And since I'm super kind, I'm going to edit in your responses so you don't have to re-post them :3
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Post by Stove on Oct 16, 2011 14:46:19 GMT
About the shield throw....it is best used at point blank.
You throw it at point blank.
Any smaller borg gets stunned by it, and you can simply dash around it spamming your fanny off.
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Post by MeAmCryzor on Oct 16, 2011 16:18:58 GMT
About the shield throw....it is best used at point blank. You throw it at point blank. Any smaller borg gets stunned by it, and you can simply dash around it spamming your fanny off. The problem I had with it is that it often misses so I hadn't actually noticed that. Thanks, article updated. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2011 18:37:01 GMT
very well done. We need a tier list thread too.
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Post by yuurei on Oct 16, 2011 18:51:24 GMT
Heyo steve. How many episodes of SGT Frog are in english?
And normal knight is merely meh. Against another low tier he'll prolly go 5-5 with em if you can block. Anything mid tier or higher will mess him up though.
(Uses far too many knights and samurai...)
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Post by Stove on Oct 16, 2011 19:33:26 GMT
^Uhh.....I dunno. ;D
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Post by Frozazen on Oct 16, 2011 20:42:16 GMT
wait, are we discussing the borgs here or on the other thread?
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Post by MeAmCryzor on Oct 16, 2011 22:20:38 GMT
^Here/Tier list thread when I make it. Replies to the other thread should be stuff you want me to add to the main article.
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I made a thing... Long live Gotcha Force!!!
