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Post by loopy on Feb 27, 2009 22:04:36 GMT
Completely off-topic: Mother Lovers are great people, Loopy. 
On-topic: I'm reading up on the glitch, gonna try it in a few seconds~ Dude you can say that bold part again, and again, and again ;D Be careful with the Glitch. Use a spare memory card if you have one. |
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Post by Tatsubei Yagyu on Feb 28, 2009 2:29:06 GMT
Alright, so I did the glitch, and it's worked perfectly. I ran some test battles to try out my new ill-gained Borgs
So Galactic Emperor. He's pretty boring. It's hilarious that every time he appears, he gives his speech, though.
All you can do is the Laser move when the enemies are around you, and they are able to be beamed on top of you, which is super cool. They weren't able to figure out how to break my shield open, so I didn't take any damage. But I couldn't hit them either, so the match never ended. 
I'm unsure if once they do a certain amount of damage to you, more moves are available, or what, but I'll test him more later.
I'll write about G Black after a couple more test battles to figure out his strengths and whatnot. 
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Post by Admin on Feb 28, 2009 7:03:28 GMT
But I couldn't hit them either, so the match never ended. [/color][/size][/quote] You will always win with the GE, it's just the battles drag on for anything from 30 minutes to 1 ½ hours. It's recommended that you start the battle with a Death ICBM and Tama as partner, blow yourself and your partner up, only to re-emerge as the Emperor with Death Arc hovering above you. This way, Tama will help break the shield of GE, and once that happens, it's only a matter of moments before victory. |
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Post by Doublesuya on Mar 4, 2009 12:43:18 GMT
I tried getting some more commander borgs, and get this: The forces required to get them via glitch are duds!!
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Post by Admin on Mar 4, 2009 21:24:16 GMT
The glitch shouldn't be used for any other purpose than to obtain the two otherwise unobtainable Borgs.
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Post by SharkOnDarts on Mar 4, 2009 22:16:31 GMT
Ehhhh, I disagree with that. The only time I can ever firmly stand against the use of glitches is if they're exploited in multiplayer gameplay (the "instantly-win-the-race" glitch in Mario Kart Wii online, for example). The only real advantage over others you'd get via the 20th Force glitch is being able to get easier access to what the game already offers. It cuts the work down, but it's not like getting thirty copies of Musashi is impossible within the normal parameters of the game.
As for single-player gameplay: who cares? Everyone's got their concept of morality in video games. For example, one person might staunchly refuse to play Oblivion in any form other than the original, unaltered version, while another guy might only find enjoyment in messing with every mod, cheat, and alteration that he can find. Neither of them are "wrong," they just have their own ways of enjoying the game.
And that, at their absolute core, is why games exist: to make money for developers enjoyment. ;D
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Post by Admin on Mar 5, 2009 7:53:37 GMT
The only real advantage over others you'd get via the 20th Force glitch is being able to get easier access to what the game already offers. It cuts the work down. As for single-player gameplay: who cares? ...but it is that long road of work with the oh so satisfying sense of accomplishment that needs to be experienced. One aspect of, at least for me, why Gotcha is so great, is that big collective gameplay. It was that feeling that kept me going: "I wonder what new Borg(s) I can get today" or "Today I'll try to get all the crystals for that Borg" for so long, and during that time, I truly discovered why this game is so great. Death Arc alone took me months to unlock, and I couldn't wait to get back from work to try and get that last crystal. It was so much fun! I'm against the glitch because I don't want people playing this game to be robbed of that fun. How can possibly utilizing an unstable glitch to gain access to a game's content have any sense of fun, game-experience (and for me at least, self-pride and honor) and not to mention the sense of accomplishment? I myself has unlocked every single Borg by playing the game just the way it was made. The sense of accomplishment I feel is overwhelming, and knowing that I have worked hard for all the Borgs makes the game feel so much fun and rewarding when I play it. If I ever encountered someone else with Gotcha, noticed he had every Borg, and learned he got pretty much all of them via the glitch, I'd feel incredibly sorry for him, because he has never truly experienced Gotcha and what the game has to offer. It's those many hours of gameplay that means so much. A video game is meant to be played, enjoyed and feel engrossing, not being cut short because "you can unlock everything anyway with a few button presses". I hate glitches and cheats, because they ruin the games. Games meant to be fun and enjoyable. They ruin the very fact why video games exists in the first place. |
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Post by loopy on Mar 6, 2009 20:59:34 GMT
The only real advantage over others you'd get via the 20th Force glitch is being able to get easier access to what the game already offers. It cuts the work down. As for single-player gameplay: who cares? ...but it is that long road of work with the oh so satisfying sense of accomplishment that needs to be experienced. One aspect of, at least for me, why Gotcha is so great, is that big collective gameplay. It was that feeling that kept me going: "I wonder what new Borg(s) I can get today" or "Today I'll try to get all the crystals for that Borg" for so long, and during that time, I truly discovered why this game is so great. Death Arc alone took me months to unlock, and I couldn't wait to get back from work to try and get that last crystal. It was so much fun! I'm against the glitch because I don't want people playing this game to be robbed of that fun. How can possibly utilizing an unstable glitch to gain access to a game's content have any sense of fun, game-experience (and for me at least, self-pride and honor) and not to mention the sense of accomplishment? I myself has unlocked every single Borg by playing the game just the way it was made. The sense of accomplishment I feel is overwhelming, and knowing that I have worked hard for all the Borgs makes the game feel so much fun and rewarding when I play it. If I ever encountered someone else with Gotcha, noticed he had every Borg, and learned he got pretty much all of them via the glitch, I'd feel incredibly sorry for him, because he has never truly experienced Gotcha and what the game has to offer. It's those many hours of gameplay that means so much. A video game is meant to be played, enjoyed and feel engrossing, not being cut short because "you can unlock everything anyway with a few button presses". I hate glitches and cheats, because they ruin the games. Games meant to be fun and enjoyable. They ruin the very fact why video games exists in the first place. May i ask what you work as? ;D |
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Post by SharkOnDarts on Mar 6, 2009 21:05:40 GMT
I'm against the glitch because I don't want people playing this game to be robbed of that fun. I hate glitches and cheats, because they ruin the games. Games meant to be fun and enjoyable. They ruin the very fact why video games exists in the first place. But see, that's exactly my point: for many, glitching Borgs is cheating, taking away from the games real "point," and everything you said, essentially. But others might love Gotcha, but collecting Borgs is just an absolute chore to them. Maybe they only have the game for multiplayer purposes, hate dealing with the frustrating AI and horrible random drops of Story mode, and just want to skip past the endless grind and get the Borgs they want ASAP. If doing so makes them enjoy the game more, why worry? I know you haven't played the Pokemon games, but here's an example: the Master Ball. This item allowed players to instantly capture any one Pokemon, including the Legendary monsters, which would normally take huge amounts of effort, patience, and luck. No one forces you to use the Master Ball at any time, so if one wants to experience the thrill of weakening and capturing the monsters, they are free to. However, if they don't want to risk it, or just don't want to deal with the hassle, they get a "get around it free" card. That's how I look at the Force Glitch. It's not an intentional feature, obviously, but it's still a useful method for players who aren't interested in "catching 'em all" to skip the grind and get to what they really want to do. "Games are meant to be fun and enjoyable," I wholeheartedly agree with. But, I don't agree that glitches and cheats "ruin games." Were that the case, the Konami Code (up up down down left right left right A B Start) would never have achieved the level of fondness and popularity it has today. Another example, look at fighting games. The very notion of canceling a combo string into a special move- one of the absolute cornerstones of fighting games today- was born of a glitch in Street Fighter II. In so many ways, they don't "ruin" games...they often enhance them, just in unintended and unforeseen ways. [/incredibly wordy self-righteous rant] -EDIT-  He felt necessary. |
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Post by Doublesuya on Mar 18, 2009 11:45:17 GMT
Does anyone know how to get Sasuke via glitch? I'm sick of trying to get him the normal way (I keep getting all but the one data crystale! ), and the one in a guide is a complete dud. Bushimaru: E-Blue, what does it say about his patchience level? E-Blue: IT'S OVER NEGATIVE 9000!!!!! Bushimaru: ................... Right.... Maybe I shouldn't have asked. |
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Post by Admin on Mar 18, 2009 13:01:37 GMT
I suggest the very first battle against Kakeru when he's only using Sasuke.
The battle will be over very quickly since there's only one opponent + it racks up experience fast too.
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Post by loopy on Mar 18, 2009 18:18:23 GMT
I suggest the very first battle against Kakeru when he's only using Sasuke. The battle will be over very quickly since there's only one opponent + it racks up experience fast too. Yeah doing the Glitch will just make you get bored quickly. |
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Post by Tatsubei Yagyu on Mar 19, 2009 23:55:10 GMT
Or blow him away with terribly strong borgs in different missions of his, and get lucky.
You should also just try beating the game again, and see if you have a easier time getting him. I beat it again recently and got another Isaac, and Nao and Kei for the first time. 
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Post by tygerthorn on Mar 20, 2009 4:23:12 GMT
I personally haven't used the glitch at all yet, except to test it out, because I don't have a second memory card, and I really don't want to risk all the work it took to get Cyber Dragon and Ultimate Cannon, and Cosmic Dragon.
I can see both sides of the argument, really. The purist side says doing the grind personally makes you appreciate your borgs more, but the fun side says it's boring to the nth power.
I'm kind of a hybrid of these two. I do appreciate all the work it took to get them, hence the reason I don't want to risk them to get any borg I'm missing via the glitch, but I also don't think some of them were WORTH the grind. I appreciate the work that it took to get them, but some of them just kind aren't worth it.
Case in point: Cyber Dragon; No one has Death Head, so the only way to experience Cyber Death Dragon is in VS Mode, and it's really not that powerful without Death Head.
In defense of: Cosmic Dragon; Costs a ton, but it REALLY knows how to put boot to [expletive deleted].
I really think it's a personal decision, and I suppose discussion on the issue isn't going to persuade anyone to do anything but make up their own mind based on their priorities, but overall, I have to side with the fun side, mostly because I've been trying to get myself out of the achievment-based mindset, and just ENJOY games again, and sometimes enjoyment through cheating is just a higher priority than besting the challenge legitimately.
Just my ramble on the matter.
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Post by naruto on Oct 14, 2009 20:26:30 GMT
I've been messing around and experimenting with the 20th force glitch for a while and made working clones of borgs. once I confirm my method I will report at once,but for now im still experimenting on it so it may take a while but we'll get there ;D I'll name it method: 3  PS:also found a new color changing method but no matter what you all you get is the alt color of the borg best part is the game wont freeze until you try to change the color of a borg who dosn't have a alt if you check its stats. still working on this one too  PSS:soon I Will need testers for the cloning method soon after my confirmation |
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Post by loopy on Oct 15, 2009 17:31:10 GMT
I've been messing around and experimenting with the 20th force glitch for a while and made working clones of borgs. once I confirm my method I will report at once,but for now im still experimenting on it so it may take a while but we'll get there ;D I'll name it method: 3 PS:also found a new color changing method but no matter what you all you get is the alt color of the borg best part is the game wont freeze until you try to change the color of a borg who dosn't have a alt if you check its stats. still working on this one too PSS:soon I Will need testers for the cloning method soon after my confirmation I already know how to make working clones. The problem is, after doing a few glitches the game will just crash, even if you do the glitch right. ;D |
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Post by naruto on Oct 15, 2009 21:29:37 GMT
I've been messing around and experimenting with the 20th force glitch for a while and made working clones of borgs. once I confirm my method I will report at once,but for now im still experimenting on it so it may take a while but we'll get there ;D I'll name it method: 3 PS:also found a new color changing method but no matter what you all you get is the alt color of the borg best part is the game wont freeze until you try to change the color of a borg who dosn't have a alt if you check its stats. still working on this one too PSS:soon I Will need testers for the cloning method soon after my confirmation I already know how to make working clones. The problem is, after doing a few glitches the game will just crash, even if you do the glitch right. ;D oh you do? can you pls tell me your the way you did it ? THANK YOU |
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Post by loopy on Oct 16, 2009 18:15:20 GMT
How To Do It:
1. Use empty file
2. Go to Force Edit on the Title Screen
3. Clear all Forces
4. Go to Force 20
5. Put G Red in Slot 23
6. Put Revolver Gunman in Slot 15
7. Pick up Invisible Borg
8. Place it on Normal Ninja
9. Press B (You will be holding an Invisible Borg, Pressing B will release it)
10. Pick up Normal Ninja in slot 21
11. Place it in Slot 19
12. G Red should be picked up, Put him in Slot 21
13. Put Normal Ninja in Slot 19 somewhere in the Gotcha Box
14. Pick Up Invisible
15. Place it on Arrow Ninja
16. Press B (You will be holding an Invisible Borg, Pressing B will release it)
17. Check that all forces are empty
18. You should now have 2 Normal Ninja's, Both Fully Functional and available for Glitching
I made a topic on GameFAQ's ages ago...
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Post by loopy on Oct 16, 2009 19:42:26 GMT
I made a quick Youtube video too. Please watch it as soon as you can as i plan to take it down soon (Unless it gets a lot of views for some reason) www.youtube.com/watch?v=jEj-zai6tf8Mwahahahaha my knowlege of Gotcha Force exceeds that of what people think i know >=D LOL!! |
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Post by naruto on Oct 16, 2009 21:27:55 GMT
kk thanks ;D
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