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Post by Stove on Apr 6, 2012 2:18:43 GMT
I'm pretty sure that jigglypuff using rest or rollout can too if its a light weight character. No, that's like 70% |
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Post by yuurei on Apr 6, 2012 2:21:22 GMT
Wondering, who do ya'll play as most? I dun feel like looking through the entire topic. I play Ike (8888 yeah high damage disjointed hitboxes!), (Sol)Olimar (1 Pikmin only. Like a boss.), Lucario (Mewtoo replacement!), and Pit (I'm a sucker for wings. And FLYING. And being annoying.).
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2012 2:21:54 GMT
I'm pretty sure that jigglypuff using rest or rollout can too if its a light weight character. No, that's like 70% I checked my facts a while ago and it was around 40- 50% apparently but I think that only applies to the lightest of lightweight characters from my experience. |
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Post by Stove on Apr 6, 2012 2:25:34 GMT
Wondering, who do ya'll play as most? I dun feel like looking through the entire topic. I play Ike (8888 yeah high damage disjointed hitboxes!), (Sol)Olimar (1 Pikmin only. Like a boss.), Lucario (Mewtoo replacement!), and Pit (I'm a sucker for wings. And FLYING. And being annoying.). Lucario's much better than Mewtwo, not a replacement. That's been explained, SONIC is Mewtwo's replacement. And, I main Lucario, ROB, and Mr. Game&Watch |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2012 2:28:51 GMT
metaknight jigglypuff and kirby.
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Post by Treadshot A1 on Apr 6, 2012 4:23:55 GMT
I always main Falco. Ever since Melee, i've found him to be really effective, even before i knew what tier lists were (he's 4th in Brawl). I don't really know why he's so good, i just found he has the perfect assortment of moves and speed and aerial ability to come out on top in any match. Sire, he ain't no Meta Knight for sheer ability, but he's adaptable and doesn't play the same old strategy every single time, which makes Falco fun to play as (either that, or i'm using Meta Knight wrong). That, and Dair Spiking. Nuff' said.
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Post by Stove on Apr 6, 2012 4:32:55 GMT
(Yeah, I know Falco's 4th. Diddy Kong is 2nd and Ganondorf is last too.)
Stategy? What stategy lol?
I go in and do it, Strategy in fighting games? You're in the wrong genre.
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Post by Indigo on Apr 6, 2012 5:03:48 GMT
The SSB series can be a bit strategical. Of course the majority is fistycuffs, but because of the slower and more controlled pace of the series, there is some strategy involved, more specifically with some characters, though.
Every fighting game uses strategy to a degree, unless you're just mashing buttons.
Oh wait, that's a strategy.
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Post by The Regal RP Mod on Apr 6, 2012 5:13:09 GMT
Yeah, for example my strategy is to use heavy characters who can take a hit. This has also led to me having a good edge/air game as I get hit back a LOT. But hey, this is a guy who can take on 3 people, one of whom came in 2nd at a tourny at GenCon, with a control scheme I have never used before and by the end of the fourth match EVERYONE was trying to kill me so it was basically 3v1. My skill with heavys is high, but as it was a new file I was forced to use lighter characters as I despise Bowser and DK is ok...so I used Peach instead for the first 2 and DK for the last 3...How many ways can I say I'm good?
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Post by Stove on Apr 6, 2012 5:18:57 GMT
The SSB series can be a bit strategical. Of course the majority is fistycuffs, but because of the slower and more controlled pace of the series, there is some strategy involved, more specifically with some characters, though. Every fighting game uses strategy to a degree, unless you're just mashing buttons. Oh wait, that's a strategy. I was kidding. Take it from a passive battler, there's plenty of strategy still. |
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Post by Death Eye on Apr 6, 2012 5:23:26 GMT
Followed by an Fsmash (as I believe the notation would go). Never gets old. Wondering, who do ya'll play as most? I dun feel like looking through the entire topic. I play Ike (8888 yeah high damage disjointed hitboxes!), (Sol)Olimar (1 Pikmin only. Like a boss.), Lucario (Mewtoo replacement!), and Pit (I'm a sucker for wings. And FLYING. And being annoying.). I don't have a main; I just randomly pick who I feel like using in a particular round, so if I were to come up with a list of my mains it would turn out to be, like, half the roster. Back when I did have a main, though, it was Ike. Then it was Lucario when Ike became too easy to use. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2012 18:36:42 GMT
I main Toon Link, then Ganon, then Zero-suit Samus
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Post by Stove on Apr 9, 2012 14:12:46 GMT
OK, I think I'll do these random guides. I guess I'll start with my favorite character, the man in green, Luigi.
...prepare for a wall of text.
Despite what many people say Luigi is not a ground fighter. His aerials are what make him amazing, being able to short hop enables you to use them against ground opponents.
up air is for enemies you've just hit up but not KO'ed. It's very fast and difficult to guess and dodge if it isn't spammed.
His forward air is very good for short hopping, usually able of two hits. Very good.
Down air is for descending. It doesn't leave Luigi wide open and once again, it's fast.
Back air is once again, fast, and useful.
Neutral air is actually a pretty good KO move, as it is what is known as a "sex kick" which at the very beginning of its use has very good knockback, but decreases in power the longer it us out.
Pretty much Luigi's only good aerial KO move.
Now on the ground:
Neutral a combo is decent.
Dash a racks up nice damage, and if you hit, can set up for short hop attacks.
Forward a hits decent. I don't use up a or down a.
Up smash is decent for KO's, but might as well leave vertical KO's to the fire punch.
Down smash is only when you need to hit both sides.
Side smash is arguably Luigi's best KO move, simply because if you fail, fire punch leaves you very vulnerable.
B neutral is good for stopping advances, or Jigglypuff's rollout. Unlike his brother's fire, Luigi's Defoe's gravity.
B side is a good recovery, to be used off the side of the stage. If it misfires, it has very good KO potential. However, it's only a 1/8 chance.
B down is a good recovery too, as it can be chained with one of the other two, as it's the only recovery you have that doesn't make you helpless. Great for ground travel too.
B up is pathetic. 1% damage, and leaves you helpless, and with your very slow fall rate, that really sucks. It is your best vertical recovery, and if used when right on top of an opponent, is a very good KO move. Trap your opponent as they run in with a couple of neutral a jabs and they're in the perfect position for a knockout.
Taunt down has one use, catching edgespammers off guard.
If you catch an edgespammer and he runs out of invincibility on the edge and you use this taunt, it does a very powerful meteor smash, that, on stages like Final destination or battlefield, is an instant KO.
Also, Luigi is actually slightly slower than Mario, but jumps higher.
All in all, Luigi is a very good aerial fighter with nice approaches, and 3 good forms of recovery. However, Luigi's biggest downside is being lightweight, which while it helps air time, it makes him rather easy to KO.
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Post by Carigun on Apr 9, 2012 16:38:04 GMT
my favorite is pikachu and i think the best character is kerby because he can use the opponents attacks agenst them and the most annyoing thing about the game is that there is sonic but no shadow i mean i cannot have a game that features sonic but dosent feature shadow
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Post by The Regal RP Mod on Apr 9, 2012 16:49:34 GMT
dude, breathe. Also, spell check man...
As for the game having Sonic and not Shadow, how exactly would Shadow be different from Sonic? Super Smash Brothers has never introduced a character and had a clone in the same game. (Other than Luigi, and he's a semi-clone at best) So basically, they were all like "Who cares?"
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Post by Stove on Apr 9, 2012 16:55:57 GMT
dude, breathe. Also, spell check man... As for the game having Sonic and not Shadow, how exactly would Shadow be different from Sonic? Super Smash Brothers has never introduced a character and had a clone in the same game. (Other than Luigi, and he's a semi-clone at best) So basically, they were all like "Who cares?" Luigi isn't even a semi clone. Mario and Luigi share 2 attacks, and they're even different. And, did I really make that many errors? EDIT: Then again, Mario used to have the tornado too, so three. I guess back in the original they were like semi-clones. Marth and Roy WERE semi-clones too, I guess. |
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Post by Carigun on Apr 9, 2012 19:07:19 GMT
dude, breathe. Also, spell check man... As for the game having Sonic and not Shadow, how exactly would Shadow be different from Sonic? Super Smash Brothers has never introduced a character and had a clone in the same game. (Other than Luigi, and he's a semi-clone at best) So basically, they were all like "Who cares?" me  |
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Post by Treadshot A1 on Apr 10, 2012 17:49:07 GMT
Your last post was a bit rushed, and did read like you were spitting it out like you were on a time limit or something [/friendly advice]
Also, Luigi is not a clone. Not any more. The only clones that I can think of are probably Marth and Roy, and even then that's debatable. I suppose some would count Fox and Wolf, though they play quite differently, and as a Falco player, I know he is far from a clone of Fox (way better aerial game, very different play styles).
Oh, and don't forget the many Links, like Young Link and Toon Link. Those two are like cross game clones.
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Post by herpanda on Apr 10, 2012 18:59:10 GMT
Main for me would be Wolf. He has a great speed, range and power ratio, and imo the best overall moveset between the three Starfox characters. His movement is a little on the slow side, but the speed and range of his attacks makes up for it.
I also play Ganon on the side, and I used to main Zelda and Mario (because I mained Dr. Mario in melee. The lack of a lightning palm put me off though).
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Post by Metal on Apr 10, 2012 19:06:16 GMT
In the original mario and luigi were pretty much the same character. The only difference i remember was marios fireballs bounced and luigis flew or vice versa. In melee marth and roy, link and young link, and mario dr mario. Are the 3 sets of clones i remember with each clone being superior to the predessor. Oh and pikachu pichu. And all tho pichu took dmg from its own attacks you could just about infi charge skullbash. So it was still better in the long run. Oh and mewtwo just because. Mewtwo is awesome.
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