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Post by Stove on Apr 24, 2013 12:06:44 GMT
As a tidbit of info about alts...DE has gone and found every alt colored borg and made a list. We discovered that only one borg of similar borgs have an alt. Sword Knight has an alt. Normal Knight does not.
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Post by dillybar64 on Apr 24, 2013 13:22:55 GMT
DE has gone and found every alt colored borg and made a list. Did he? Where is this list? Has he posted it in one of the threads? That is excellent. Way to go Death Eye Edit: Never mind, I found it gotchaforcefan.proboards.com/thread/2954YAY!
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Post by Death Eye on Apr 30, 2013 6:12:43 GMT
That is excellent. Way to go Death Eye Thanks. Anyway, I want to do some Borg page editing. Also I'm almost certain I'm going to be the one that deals with the glitch page anyway. (Seriously, that page sorely needs a rewrite, and I'd say I'm just about the only guy for the job. And I need to get those tables put together anyway.) So how does this whole Wikia thing work? What do I have to do to start editing and how do I do basic page formatting?
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Post by dillybar64 on Apr 30, 2013 14:11:41 GMT
That is an impressive resume you have there To start editing hit the contribute button in the upper right, or the edit button by the page's name. Honestly? It is a pretty basic system. The only thing that you might struggle with is getting your imported pictures to sit where you want them to and get the text to wrap properly. I have confidence that you will be able to figure it out, no problem. If you ever do get stuck on something, I am sure it is because none of us can figure it out so you are doomed we can help.
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Post by Death Eye on Apr 30, 2013 19:21:33 GMT
That is an impressive resume you have there Yeah, I mean, did you see those tables? Clearly I am the greatest thing-writing guy. Upon further observation, it is pretty basic. My confusion before was just because I didn't realize puzzle pieces symbolize templates. Speaking of templates, I feel like it would be a good idea to toss the Borg ID in that Borg Info Box. (You know, since that's also Borg info, even if it has no bearing on anything but the glitch and the game's internal operation.) Which should be pretty easy, but how does Wikia extrapolate, say, Level 1 HP/Level 10 HP from LvOneLvTenHP? It's clearly pulling that from somewhere else, but where is that and how do I do whatever with it?
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Post by Carigun on Apr 30, 2013 19:27:32 GMT
Why not have a 20th Force glitch page?
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Post by Death Eye on Apr 30, 2013 19:45:19 GMT
Why not have a 20th Force glitch page? Anyway, I want to do some Borg page editing. Also I'm almost certain I'm going to be the one that deals with the glitch page anyway. (Seriously, that page sorely needs a rewrite, and I'd say I'm just about the only guy for the job. And I need to get those tables put together anyway.) So how does this whole Wikia thing work? What do I have to do to start editing and how do I do basic page formatting? To answer the question I think you were looking for there, yeah, I'm going to put the Borg IDs on the glitch page, but it's Borg info, so I see no reason not to also have them on their respective Borgs' pages.
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Post by Carigun on Apr 30, 2013 19:47:59 GMT
Why not have a 20th Force glitch page? Anyway, I want to do some Borg page editing. Also I'm almost certain I'm going to be the one that deals with the glitch page anyway. (Seriously, that page sorely needs a rewrite, and I'd say I'm just about the only guy for the job. And I need to get those tables put together anyway.) So how does this whole Wikia thing work? What do I have to do to start editing and how do I do basic page formatting? ...
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Post by dillybar64 on Apr 30, 2013 21:34:44 GMT
Why not have a 20th Force glitch page? They already have one, although like the rest of the wiki it is quite bare. gotchaforce.wikia.com/wiki/20th_Force_GlitchTo answer the question I think you were looking for there, yeah, I'm going to put the Borg IDs on the glitch page, but it's Borg info, so I see no reason not to also have them on their respective Borgs' pages. For each borg page that I have worked on, I have added "The force sequence for this borg when using the 20th Force Glitch is:" and their respective numbers.
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Post by Carigun on Apr 30, 2013 21:37:29 GMT
id do it but i dont think that my grammar is good enough. i have remembered something from Runescape Wiki (only 4 contributes and thats Ankou) but i just dont know how to do it.
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Post by Death Eye on Apr 30, 2013 22:15:57 GMT
To answer the question I think you were looking for there, yeah, I'm going to put the Borg IDs on the glitch page, but it's Borg info, so I see no reason not to also have them on their respective Borgs' pages. For each borg page that I have worked on, I have added "The force sequence for this borg when using the 20th Force Glitch is:" and their respective numbers. See, that's one way of doing it. but it'd be more organized to have it in the Borg Info Box, I think. Plus the actual numbers are 16-bit hexadecimal that the game itself uses to identify Borgs (hence 0905 and 0C03), so then it becomes a philosophical thing of do we put the actual number for the sake of accuracy or do we put the conversion for convenience, and personally I lean toward the former. It's not like it's that hard to find an online converter anyway, and I could just put both numbers on the main glitch page if it's that important. But I am technically only one person, and this is a wiki we're talking about, so I guess it's up to the consensus. Or, at the very least, whether or not anyone tells me how to add it to the box myself.
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Post by dillybar64 on Apr 30, 2013 22:37:48 GMT
do we put the actual number for the sake of accuracy or do we put the conversion for convenience Why not both? I have the whole "force sequence is: # # #" thing because I needed to use it to take up space. Here is a screenshot from Time Bomber's page. As you can see, there is a little bit of blank space between the start of the Moves section, and where the table of their moves actually starts. For borgs that have an alternate color, I put a pic in there that I take from this thread gotchaforcefan.proboards.com/thread/2954/list-borgs-alt-color-completeto eat up that extra space. But since not every borg has an alternate color I tried to expand the "How to get this borg" section as much as I could to minimize that dead space. The table of their moves can't come up any higher or it would be overlapping the giant info box that every borg's page comes with. Although, looking at it again there is more that I could write in the HOW TO GET section... But I still wanna put a borgs 20th force codes in that section, just for the handy reference on each page.
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Post by Death Eye on Apr 30, 2013 23:26:14 GMT
Good point. It'd be slightly redundant, but it'd be both convenient and accurate and minimize empty space, so who cares, let's go with that. ...Just as soon as I figure out how to change the template.
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Post by dillybar64 on Apr 30, 2013 23:29:24 GMT
Change the template?
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Post by Death Eye on Apr 30, 2013 23:39:30 GMT
Yeah. The Borg Info Box template. Wasn't the plan to put the Borg ID in there and the force sequence in the How to Get section? Or do I desperately need to work on my reading comprehension? (I think I did just figure out how to do it, by the way. So that's not a concern.)
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Post by dillybar64 on May 1, 2013 0:24:39 GMT
Yeah. The Borg Info Box template. Wasn't the plan to put the Borg ID in there and the force sequence in the How to Get section? Or do I desperately need to work on my reading comprehension? (I think I did just figure out how to do it, by the way. So that's not a concern.) You can access it in the edit GUI. On the top right of the text field there are two tabs: Source, and Visual. Click Source. Also, I was hoping that we could get the info for both codes in the "How to get this borg" section. That way we minimize the white space even further. If we include that info in the borg info box then it just gets longer and adds white space. I think it is also useful to keep them together.
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Post by Death Eye on May 1, 2013 1:04:40 GMT
Yeah. The Borg Info Box template. Wasn't the plan to put the Borg ID in there and the force sequence in the How to Get section? Or do I desperately need to work on my reading comprehension? (I think I did just figure out how to do it, by the way. So that's not a concern.) You can access it in the edit GUI. On the top right of the text field there are two tabs: Source, and Visual. Click Source. Oh. I thought I had to go edit the template itself. Which, come to think of it, it looks like in the Source view it's just editing variables that get passed on to the template so it'll have the right text in the boxes, meaning you can't add a box like that. I mean, I know absolutely nothing about HTML or whatever this is, so I'm probably wrong, but that's what it looks like to me. We could put it there, but it wouldn't be too different from if we were to put the Borg's number in the body of the article. Because it's pretty much the game's internal equivalent we're talking about. Plus having them both is already redundant, if they're going to be within 2 sentences of each other in the body of the article we might as well not bother. It's like giving a measurement in meters then converting it to yards right after because your entire readership is American non-scientists. If you're going to provide the conversion your readers are going to use in the next sentence, why bother with the original value?
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Post by dillybar64 on May 1, 2013 1:11:45 GMT
Which, come to think of it, it looks like in the Source view it's just editing variables that get passed on to the template so it'll have the right text in the boxes, meaning you can't add a box like that.
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Post by Death Eye on May 1, 2013 1:21:12 GMT
I have no idea what happened with your quotes there, it's pretty confusing. This is unfortunate. Our potential to faff about with stuff is unfortunately limited... Not really, template editing looks pretty easy as long as all you have to do is add sections to a table. All it takes is some copy-pasting, by the looks of it. I'm pretty sure undoing it takes about two presses of backspace with basic highlighting skills anyway, so it's not like I can irreparably break anything. I'll do a thing and see how it looks. EDIT: Yeah, it works exactly as intended, that template edit. Even hides the row on pages the data in it hasn't been added to yet. (For reference, I added it in under the number on Blue Striker's page, and you can see on Orange Fighter's page (at the time of this edit) that the row doesn't show up if the relevant data isn't there. And if we want the Borg ID to go somewhere other than under the number, that's a simple fix. I'm not sure which of two ways is the correct one, but they're both simple.) EDIT: Oh crap I need to figure out what Death Eye (Alternate) is in the glitch FAQ. That's going to take a while. Also that's an understatement.
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Post by Carigun on May 1, 2013 15:56:19 GMT
il do a bit of work when Matthew2602 (Runescape Wiki) has responded to a question
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