Post by njayhuang on Apr 10, 2012 0:50:47 GMT
Armed with Google Translate and some experience with Engrish, njay sets out to...do something.
Well, basically we know a lot about Gotcha Force, but the Japanese GF community has figured out a lot more. Most people won't take the time to do something so tedious as translating the wiki, so I thought I would try my hand at a few important pages/files to the best of my ability or at least sharing some of the resources I found. It's a good thing most of the English names are the same as the Japanese names.
It seems the old GF Wiki (or maybe the site it was hosted on) died a few years back and the one I'm looking at is a copy of it on a new site. Furthermore, most of the pages haven't been updated since 2007, which means the Japanese GF community has known all this stuff since 2007 at the latest!
So let's get started! This one's just a list of the borgs that have and don't have alt colors. Not particularly super interesting, but nice to have for reference, especially since we're still trying to figure this out in the English community.
wikiwiki.jp/gotcha/?%A5%A2%A5%CA%A5%B6%A1%BC%A5%EA%A5%B9%A5%C8
A summary of what we know.
The secret of the presence/absence of alternate colors.
The 10th development team’s post on rare colors.
It’s a remnant of a 2P color system. It didn’t work out.
Borgs added later in the game do not have an alternate color set.
Has alternate colors:
Ninja Tribe
Normal Ninja
Shuriken Ninja
Arrow Ninja
Double Ninja
Acceleration Ninja
Teleport Ninja
Flame Ninja
Cyber Ninja
Gun Tribe
Revolver Gunman
Powered Gunman
Wire Gunner
Gatling Gunner
Beam Gunner
Knight Tribe
Sword Knight
Elemental Knight
Chainsaw Night
Vampire Knight
Spike Night
Axe Knight
Sapphire Night
Dark Knight
Girl Tribe
Battle Girl
Wire Girl
Barrier Girl
Cyber Girl Super
Killer Girl
Machine Tribe
G Red
Claw Robot
Build Robot
Thunder Robot
Magnet Robot (+)
Drill Robot
Hammer Robot
Panther Robot
Titan Robot
Eagle Robot
Victory King
Dragon Tribe
Flame Dragon
Phoenix Dragon
Cosmic Dragon
Death Head
Cyber Dragon
(Special case for Cyber Death Dragon: when an alternate Death Head is combined)
Musha Tribe
Normal Samurai
Sonic Samurai
Samurai Shogun
Beam Samurai
Knuckle Tribe
Kung Fu Master
Tao Master
Jelly Diver
Copy Man
Wizard Tribe
Patra Witch
Guard Witch
Bug Witch
Nurse Tribe
Angel Nurse
Idol Tribe
Pop Honey
Bug Tribe
Alien Insect
Alien Worm
Demon Tribe
Demon Samurai
Demon Wing
Hero Tribe
Jet Hero
Gold Hero
Star Hero
Wing Tribe
Wing Soldier
Beam Wing Blue
Anubis Wing
Angel Tribe
Quick Valkyrie
Ice Valkyrie
Tornado Valkyrie
Wind Valkyrie
Ring Valkyrie
Tank Tribe
Normal Tank
Gatling Tank
ICBM Tank
Ultimate Cannon
Beam Tank
Air Tribe
Blue Striker
Carrier Helicopter
Red Attacker
Flying Saucer
Fortress Tribe
Beam Satellite
Sirius
Antares
Death Saucer
Death Tribe
Death Borg Alpha
Death Borg Beta II
Death Borg Gamma
Death Borg Delta II
Death Borg Zeta
Death Borg Theta
Death Borg Lambda
Death Borg Mu
Death Borg Nu
Death Borg Sigma
Death Borg Tau
Death Borg Omega
Other
Usagi
Galactic Emperor
Does not have alternate colors:
Partner borgs, except for G Red and the Dark Knight, do not have alternate colors.
Ninja Tribe
Sasuke
Shijima
Switching Ninja
Gun Tribe
Billy
Time Bomber
Remote Bomber
Knight Tribe
Vlad
Normal Knight
Hatchet Knight
Ghost Kight
Hammer Knight
Ruby Knight
Imperial Knight
Girl Tribe
Kei
Command Girl
Spinner Girl
Cyber Girl
Cyber Girl Hyper
Shadow Girl
Machine Tribe
Isaac
Neo G Red
Magnet Robot (-)
Megaton robot
Army Robot
Large machine borgs except for Panther Robot, Titan Robot, Eagle Robot, and Victory King
All four Cyber Machines
G Black
Dragon Tribe
All small dragons
Wing Dragon
Large dragons, except for Flame Dragon
Space Dragon
Machine Head
Mechanical Dragon
Machine Dragon
Musha Tribe
Musashi
Chrono Samurai
Knuckle Tribe
Jack
Walking Bomb
Tar Diver
Wizard Tribe
Shield Witch
Bastet Witch
Isis Witch
Sekhmet Witch
Nurse Tribe
Nao
Angel Rescue
Idol Tribe
None
Bug Tribe
Roach
Claw worm
Poison Worm
Venom Worm
Demon Tribe
Akuma Samurai
Death Wing
Hero Tribe
Cyber Hero
Metal Hero
Planet Hero
Wing Tribe
Garuda
Beam Wing Red
Blade Wing
Angel Tribe
Slow Valkyrie
Tank Tribe
Leopard
Titan Tank
Victory Tank
Panther Vehicle
Victory Machine
Air Tribe
Eagle Jet
Victory Jet
Orange Fighter
Violet Attacker
Fortress Tribe
Death Arc
Death Tribe
Death Borg Alpha II
Death Borg Beta
Death Borg Gamma II
Death Borg Delta
Death Borg Delta III
Death Borg Zeta II
Death Borg Zeta III
Death Borg Zeta IV
Death Borg Iota
Death Borg Lambda II
Death Borg Nu II
Death Borg Nu III
Death Borg Omicron
Death Borg Sigma II
Death Borg Chi
Death Borg Omega II
Death Borg Omega III
Death Borg Omega IV
Death Eye
Death Bomb
Death ICBM
My (njay's) thoughts:
Interesting. So the old theory of individual borgs and pairs/set isn't entirely correct. Instead, it's mostly based off of when they were added to the game. To support this theory, you can read the Development Article 10 (linked near the beginning of this post) in which the creator states it outright. Besides that, you can read the Development Article 25 which shows their early ideas for borgs. Looking at the alt list with the new theory in mind, it makes so much sense.
In addition, that would explain why the old theory made a lot of sense, but wasn't completely accurate.
I checked this list against Death Eye's alt color thread and the only one DE is missing was Carrier Heli (unless I somehow didn't see it). So I guess Met missions are in his future now.
Also lol @ Usagi. I didn't expect to see her on the list.
Well, basically we know a lot about Gotcha Force, but the Japanese GF community has figured out a lot more. Most people won't take the time to do something so tedious as translating the wiki, so I thought I would try my hand at a few important pages/files to the best of my ability or at least sharing some of the resources I found. It's a good thing most of the English names are the same as the Japanese names.
It seems the old GF Wiki (or maybe the site it was hosted on) died a few years back and the one I'm looking at is a copy of it on a new site. Furthermore, most of the pages haven't been updated since 2007, which means the Japanese GF community has known all this stuff since 2007 at the latest!
So let's get started! This one's just a list of the borgs that have and don't have alt colors. Not particularly super interesting, but nice to have for reference, especially since we're still trying to figure this out in the English community.
wikiwiki.jp/gotcha/?%A5%A2%A5%CA%A5%B6%A1%BC%A5%EA%A5%B9%A5%C8
A summary of what we know.
The secret of the presence/absence of alternate colors.
The 10th development team’s post on rare colors.
It’s a remnant of a 2P color system. It didn’t work out.
Borgs added later in the game do not have an alternate color set.
Has alternate colors:
Ninja Tribe
Normal Ninja
Shuriken Ninja
Arrow Ninja
Double Ninja
Acceleration Ninja
Teleport Ninja
Flame Ninja
Cyber Ninja
Gun Tribe
Revolver Gunman
Powered Gunman
Wire Gunner
Gatling Gunner
Beam Gunner
Knight Tribe
Sword Knight
Elemental Knight
Chainsaw Night
Vampire Knight
Spike Night
Axe Knight
Sapphire Night
Dark Knight
Girl Tribe
Battle Girl
Wire Girl
Barrier Girl
Cyber Girl Super
Killer Girl
Machine Tribe
G Red
Claw Robot
Build Robot
Thunder Robot
Magnet Robot (+)
Drill Robot
Hammer Robot
Panther Robot
Titan Robot
Eagle Robot
Victory King
Dragon Tribe
Flame Dragon
Phoenix Dragon
Cosmic Dragon
Death Head
Cyber Dragon
(Special case for Cyber Death Dragon: when an alternate Death Head is combined)
Musha Tribe
Normal Samurai
Sonic Samurai
Samurai Shogun
Beam Samurai
Knuckle Tribe
Kung Fu Master
Tao Master
Jelly Diver
Copy Man
Wizard Tribe
Patra Witch
Guard Witch
Bug Witch
Nurse Tribe
Angel Nurse
Idol Tribe
Pop Honey
Bug Tribe
Alien Insect
Alien Worm
Demon Tribe
Demon Samurai
Demon Wing
Hero Tribe
Jet Hero
Gold Hero
Star Hero
Wing Tribe
Wing Soldier
Beam Wing Blue
Anubis Wing
Angel Tribe
Quick Valkyrie
Ice Valkyrie
Tornado Valkyrie
Wind Valkyrie
Ring Valkyrie
Tank Tribe
Normal Tank
Gatling Tank
ICBM Tank
Ultimate Cannon
Beam Tank
Air Tribe
Blue Striker
Carrier Helicopter
Red Attacker
Flying Saucer
Fortress Tribe
Beam Satellite
Sirius
Antares
Death Saucer
Death Tribe
Death Borg Alpha
Death Borg Beta II
Death Borg Gamma
Death Borg Delta II
Death Borg Zeta
Death Borg Theta
Death Borg Lambda
Death Borg Mu
Death Borg Nu
Death Borg Sigma
Death Borg Tau
Death Borg Omega
Other
Usagi
Galactic Emperor
Does not have alternate colors:
Partner borgs, except for G Red and the Dark Knight, do not have alternate colors.
Ninja Tribe
Sasuke
Shijima
Switching Ninja
Gun Tribe
Billy
Time Bomber
Remote Bomber
Knight Tribe
Vlad
Normal Knight
Hatchet Knight
Ghost Kight
Hammer Knight
Ruby Knight
Imperial Knight
Girl Tribe
Kei
Command Girl
Spinner Girl
Cyber Girl
Cyber Girl Hyper
Shadow Girl
Machine Tribe
Isaac
Neo G Red
Magnet Robot (-)
Megaton robot
Army Robot
Large machine borgs except for Panther Robot, Titan Robot, Eagle Robot, and Victory King
All four Cyber Machines
G Black
Dragon Tribe
All small dragons
Wing Dragon
Large dragons, except for Flame Dragon
Space Dragon
Machine Head
Mechanical Dragon
Machine Dragon
Musha Tribe
Musashi
Chrono Samurai
Knuckle Tribe
Jack
Walking Bomb
Tar Diver
Wizard Tribe
Shield Witch
Bastet Witch
Isis Witch
Sekhmet Witch
Nurse Tribe
Nao
Angel Rescue
Idol Tribe
None
Bug Tribe
Roach
Claw worm
Poison Worm
Venom Worm
Demon Tribe
Akuma Samurai
Death Wing
Hero Tribe
Cyber Hero
Metal Hero
Planet Hero
Wing Tribe
Garuda
Beam Wing Red
Blade Wing
Angel Tribe
Slow Valkyrie
Tank Tribe
Leopard
Titan Tank
Victory Tank
Panther Vehicle
Victory Machine
Air Tribe
Eagle Jet
Victory Jet
Orange Fighter
Violet Attacker
Fortress Tribe
Death Arc
Death Tribe
Death Borg Alpha II
Death Borg Beta
Death Borg Gamma II
Death Borg Delta
Death Borg Delta III
Death Borg Zeta II
Death Borg Zeta III
Death Borg Zeta IV
Death Borg Iota
Death Borg Lambda II
Death Borg Nu II
Death Borg Nu III
Death Borg Omicron
Death Borg Sigma II
Death Borg Chi
Death Borg Omega II
Death Borg Omega III
Death Borg Omega IV
Death Eye
Death Bomb
Death ICBM
My (njay's) thoughts:
Interesting. So the old theory of individual borgs and pairs/set isn't entirely correct. Instead, it's mostly based off of when they were added to the game. To support this theory, you can read the Development Article 10 (linked near the beginning of this post) in which the creator states it outright. Besides that, you can read the Development Article 25 which shows their early ideas for borgs. Looking at the alt list with the new theory in mind, it makes so much sense.
In addition, that would explain why the old theory made a lot of sense, but wasn't completely accurate.
I checked this list against Death Eye's alt color thread and the only one DE is missing was Carrier Heli (unless I somehow didn't see it). So I guess Met missions are in his future now.
Also lol @ Usagi. I didn't expect to see her on the list.